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Wanted to get some input on an experience I had this past weekend.

 

Took a friend of mine fishing in a pond, on the smaller side, that typically holds a decent amount of bass in the 3-4lb range. Water was colder, very clear, and the sun high. I didn't have much luck with moving baits, so I switched to a senko. Threw it out and let it sink, caught a dink or two, then something MUCH bigger took the lure. I was using a lighter setup, with 6lb Tatus fluorocarbon, so my cranking ability was limited. The lure started swimming off in a direction away from me very steady and solid. Try as I might for about 30 seconds, it didn't seem that my attempt to reel in did any good and it was pulling out far more drag than I was taking in. I quickly realized that it was pretty unlikely that I would be able to get this fish in with my setup, I just didn't have the power gear it would need. At that point, the line went slack, and I reeled in my lure, unscathed, and an unbent hook. I wondered if I hadn't foul hooked whatever I had on the end.

 

That said, the fish (or whatever) didn't fight one bit. It's almost as if the creature didn't realize there was anything hooked into it based on the way there was no fight and it consistently and slowly swam away. I would've presumed if it were a bass it probably would've started freaking out once I applied pressure to the line as I attempted to get it back to the shoreline. If it were a bass it would've probably been an Indiana state record based on the absolute solid feel of the fish, and this pond is only about 8 years old.

 

Does this sound like a bass to you? Or does it fall in line with my thinking that maybe it were a good sized catfish or carp? My buddy thought maybe a good sized turtle?

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I'd assume carp.  The one time I believe I was hooked into one on my light setup (6lb mono) he broke me off like it was nothing.  Mine surfaced, hence me assuming it was a carp that broke me off, but even then he didn't appear to be worried and I over adjusted my drag and snap.

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I second the turtle, I had one on the hook the other day and he kept on swimming while I thought i had a 15 pounder on the hook.

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Caught two carp this year by accident, one of them easily 40" long.  Both were on 12# fluoro, and those things freak right out and make ridiculous runs.  They just truck.

 

I'm gonna guess a turtle.

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52 minutes ago, Choporoz said:

Turtle would be my guess.

Ditto 

 

 

 

 

 

Mike

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Before I got to the bottom of your post, I was thinking Turtle catfish or carp. After realizing you already hinted at those three, I would guess turtle because it was so slow. That being said I have caught a catfish or two that were pretty slow 

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My first ever bass tournament I was working the shoreline with a jig talking to another fisherman in a boat near me working a crankbait in deeper water when something hit his lure hard.  There's musky where we were fishing so we both thought he had one on......he fought that thing for what seemed like forever when he looked up at me with a look of disappointment.  He snagged the gill of what appeared to be about a 20 pound carp. 

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Since nobody has mentioned the elephant in the room, I'm just gonna state the obvious. It was a Manatee bro. 

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turtle get's my vote.

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I’ve had big cat before that just swam off into the deeper water. Sounds like you didn’t have it hooked so it wasn’t reacting to a hook. My guess is you either pulled the bait out of it’s mouth or the fish spit it out after a while. 

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I'd guess a big catfish. Even a really big snapping turtle doesn't fight very hard, especially in cold water. I've caught some 20+lb snappers and it's just like dragging in a log, even on fairly light gear. A big catfish will swim off slowly and would be hard to get the hook to hold if you stuck it in the tooth pad in the roof of it's mouth.

 

The other wild card would be a beaver swimming through your line. Happened to me last winter with a jig and I couldn't slow that sucker down even with 20lb test and a heavy jig rod. Thankfully the hook didn't penetrate it's tough skin and it just popped off. 

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7 hours ago, flyfisher said:

anaconda 

Ah, an oldie but a baddy, but fun to watch for a young J Lo, and Jon Voight's accent which is different (but equally bad) in every scene. Now Congo on the other hand, no tomatoes...

 

x whatever we are up to for turtle.

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Does the pond have grass carp?  My experience with catfish has been that they move pretty fast. A big turtle makes a lot of sense, but I'd opt for the big bass of course.

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*cough*

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We have all had it happen. I've hooked into large opponents on small spinning tackle and just start hoping it shows itself so I know what it is.

 

So, indentifiers:

 

1) Bass (LMBs) tend to jump especially in warmer weather. You rarely see some other fish do this. I rarely have a blue gill or a white bass go aerial on me.

 

2) Catfish, less experience here on my part, but don't they tend to roll? I think that has been my general observation when I catch them unexpectedly while bass fishing. They feel totally different from LMBs to me.

 

3) Turtles don't grab something to eat it and generally swim away. They usually clamp down on it, start munching away in place. When they do realize they are hooked, they move off very slowly compared to most fish. And, more or less in a straight line. Bass move more like kites on the end of a string.

 

4) Carp and bowfin? For me, they go nuts and move away with great speed and power at times. Bowfin often take me down into the lily stems and break me off rather easily with the 8 lbs. leaders I typically use. Carp in shallows tend to make a dash for deeper water.

 

My guess? Ponds have turtles. A slow and deliberate straight line pull sounds like a turtle to me. Based on the force it was creating on your tackle, a big one!

 

Brad

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Brad Reid said:

 

2) Catfish, less experience here on my part, but don't they tend to roll? I think that has been my general observation when I catch them unexpectedly while bass fishing. They feel totally different from LMBs to me.

I'm sure it varies by type, size, location, season,etc.  But around here, the slimers, the blues and channels will inevitably roll.  Big flathead, though are more like @Bluebasser86described.  They might just drift off or go down and lay on the bottom and try not to budge

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13 hours ago, NittyGrittyBoy said:

Since nobody has mentioned the elephant in the room, I'm just gonna state the obvious. It was a Manatee bro. 

It probably wasn't an elephant.  ;  )

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I had something very similar happen with a Carolina rig. I was dragging it by a tree in about 12 foot last year about this time. The fish did the same exact thing. Catfish don't show a lot of aggression when they pick up a bait, they just swim off. Now when they get hooked they will first go towards deep water like any big fish, when they get closer to you that's when they start their famous rolling technique. When I set the hook on my fish, he turned it into over drive swimming deeper. When I turned his head towards me then I could tell he was a catfish. This actually happened in a tournament at Pickwick lake close to JP Coleman.

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9 minutes ago, All about da bass said:

I had something very similar happen with a Carolina rig. I was dragging it by a tree in about 12 foot last year about this time. The fish did the same exact thing. Catfish don't show a lot of aggression when they pick up a bait, they just swim off. Now when they get hooked they will first go towards deep water like any big fish, when they get closer to you that's when they start their famous rolling technique. When I set the hook on my fish, he turned it into over drive swimming deeper. When I turned his head towards me then I could tell he was a catfish. This actually happened in a tournament at Pickwick lake close to JP Coleman.

That sounds similar. The fish, after I hooked (or snagged) him started working towards the deepest part of the pond. It wasn't a beeline, just a steady motion to the middle, and didn't once fight, just consistent solid travel. My line was light, 6lb fluoro, so I didn't horse him, which in turn didn't give me the leeway to see how it fought, so that doesn't shed any light on it. 

 

Definitely interesting. I'm not one to come back to a body of water with intentions to catch ONE individual fish, but it makes me conscious of using my braid rigs next time to give me more of a chance of landing the fella.

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1 hour ago, Gundog said:

*cough*

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Why didn't I think of that? I think it's pretty obvious what it was now.

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4 minutes ago, Preytorien said:

That sounds similar. The fish, after I hooked (or snagged) him started working towards the deepest part of the pond. It wasn't a beeline, just a steady motion to the middle, and didn't once fight, just consistent solid travel. My line was light, 6lb fluoro, so I didn't horse him, which in turn didn't give me the leeway to see how it fought, so that doesn't shed any light on it. 

 

Definitely interesting. I'm not one to come back to a body of water with intentions to catch ONE individual fish, but it makes me conscious of using my braid rigs next time to give me more of a chance of landing the fella.

Go for it bro. I wonder if you would have lifted your rod up a little bit if he would have fought like a catfish or what....🤔

Good luck with the monster fish.

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