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Ok so.... got my feet wet with a guy catching large mouth bass on his boat. Mediocre size. Ventured out myself and fished a couple of creeks pre spawn I believe. Caught at least one every time I went there. All of a sudden it dried up. As the weather warmed up, more guys showed up. Some said too much pressure. Heck I caught a 2 pounder with at least a dozen holes in it's upper lip. When the catches for me stopped, I'm like.... ???????? Other guys were still catching them for the most part. One guy in particular stopped going as far as I know, there's an app they post their catches on. He stopped. Some others go else where. ONE old guy catches ONE everyday but that's it, and a few others do at other spots. I live in NJ, which is to me a polluted state. The guy who took me on his boat took me bank fishing and constantly caught fish where I didn't, every time. ????????   I watch a guy from ND killing it, huge pike and musky, small mouth, large mouth. The guy from ND is a you tuber NDYakAngler. I made a comment on one of his vids saying I can't watch him anymore, due to h's too successful...first cast and a few later with big fish !! But I'm watching one now ! Epic Battle With a River BEAST ! The baicaster sure throws that rat far ! That muskey took him for a ride ! He said they stock them in the river he fishes. Today I went to the other side futher downstream and worked the whole bank where I parked my truck. I used various lures, swim baits, cranks, popped craws, texas worms, shakey head, rat lure without a bill but has rotating paddling rear feet. He talks about an adrenaline rush. What's that ? I never got one even with my eight point buck I got 16 years ago. 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, PUTitinYOURmouthFISH said:

Next time try a Ned rig

 

But honestly man sometimes the fish just aren't there

 

 

Next time try a... Oh wait I already said that

I used a Ned TRD. I pop craws with a weight insert and rig the hook up top so it stands up. Every time I go out they aren't there. Why are they there for other guys all the time ? In the same spots. I just think the area I live in just sux.

 

On average how many different lures do you use in one outing ?

39 minutes ago, Catch and Grease said:

rambling ramblin man GIF

makin a living and doin the best I can, when it comes to leaving I hope you'll understand. 

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I'm sure you live in a suck area, I certainly do too. If I catch 3 fish in an outing I'm having a good day, if I catch fish 2 outings in a row I'm having a great week haha. But I'm trying to find areas or presentations that aren't being hit so hard.

 

I was down the water from a guy and he caught 2 or 3 and I got nothing, but I didn't throw the weightless kickin worm he had tied on...

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When I first got back into bass fishing a few years ago, I thought seriously about naming my boat "The Oneder" (pronounced wonder, not "o need er") because every trip to the lake, I was lucky to boat one fish.  I would go out with others and they'd be tearing them up and I'd still catch one, maybe two on a good day.  

 

These days, if it get less that 5-6 I'm thinking there is something seriously wrong with the lake.  Not bragging...just saying that it takes time to learn where and how to throw your bait.  It takes even more time to develop that feel. 

 

I take a lot of guys out with me these days and I'll ring up 7-10 while they're catching one, if any.  I truly believe they miss a lot of fish because they can't put the bait near the cover or, if they do, it sounds like a cannonball when it hits the water.  But even more importantly, I am convinced that half the time they never feel the fish pick up the bait until it's too late so they miss the strike.

 

Bottom line, just be patient, work on your technique (placement and touch), learn how to read the structure and never forget, the very next cast could produce your personal best.

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10 hours ago, biggin said:

I watch a guy from ND killing it, huge pike and musky, small mouth, large mouth. The guy from ND is a you tuber NDYakAngler. I made a comment on one of his vids saying I can't watch him anymore, due to h's too successful...first cast and a few later with big fish !!

 

Do you know how video editing works?

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1 hour ago, galyonj said:

 

Do you know how video editing works?

Some of his videos have breaks but you can tell when there are none. Anything else ?

2 hours ago, gunsinger said:

When I first got back into bass fishing a few years ago, I thought seriously about naming my boat "The Oneder" (pronounced wonder, not "o need er") because every trip to the lake, I was lucky to boat one fish.  I would go out with others and they'd be tearing them up and I'd still catch one, maybe two on a good day.  

 

These days, if it get less that 5-6 I'm thinking there is something seriously wrong with the lake.  Not bragging...just saying that it takes time to learn where and how to throw your bait.  It takes even more time to develop that feel. 

 

I take a lot of guys out with me these days and I'll ring up 7-10 while they're catching one, if any.  I truly believe they miss a lot of fish because they can't put the bait near the cover or, if they do, it sounds like a cannonball when it hits the water.  But even more importantly, I am convinced that half the time they never feel the fish pick up the bait until it's too late so they miss the strike.

 

Bottom line, just be patient, work on your technique (placement and touch), learn how to read the structure and never forget, the very next cast could produce your personal best.

It’s a toss up with cover and open water, AND his over an ounce lures make a big splash when hitting the water,  btw, fish do that from time to time and would cause a bigger fish to investigate. He does move along and casts as he goes, l believe you need to keep moving. The fish population just ain’t there and if they are too many cold fronts to suit me or the fish. Hope the forecast helps. Goofy weather is like that all summer long, and only gives you a window to get in. By the time the water warms up a little in larger bodies of water it gets cold again, maybe not for small ponds and lakes, but then what do they hold ? They probably move and stay in shallow water because of it. All of the bass l caught was shallow this past spring. Reading structure l don’t believe would help in some cases. You could bounce off and keep this going or get aggravated and move on, choice is yours. Maybe l’m being pessimistic but l can’t help that.

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2 hours ago, gunsinger said:

just saying that it takes time to learn where and how to throw your bait.  It takes even more time to develop that feel. 

You mean two guys in a boat, one guy, who is a competitor who didn’t have anything to say to me about how l was casting catching fish and he wasn’t but then in a different spot he was and l wasn’t. We were both doing Ned TRD and drop shot shad with a 1/10 ounce weight. 

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I dont know if i ever mentioned this but in 2021 i was at a big auction in north dakota and this auction had tons of full tackle boxes, rods, reels.

I had my eyes and my mind set on bidding on this one big multiple tray box loaded with lures.

I had to wait 3 hours before the auctioneer got to the fishing gear. Well i had some competion from yep, the yak man. He was buying anything that could be used for fishing right as the auction began such as back packs, storage containers...

When it came time for the fishing gear the boxes were first and it was me and him as others dropped out.

He kept upping the bid and he was not leaving without that box as it was the best one there. I knew he wasnt gonna stop so i dropped out and he won the bid and cleaned up on the other gear.

 

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20 minutes ago, throttleplate said:

I dont know if i ever mentioned this but in 2021 i was at a big auction in north dakota and this auction had tons of full tackle boxes, rods, reels.

I had my eyes and my mind set on bidding on this one big multiple tray box loaded with lures.

I had to wait 3 hours before the auctioneer got to the fishing gear. Well i had some competion from yep, the yak man. He was buying anything that could be used for fishing right as the auction began such as back packs, storage containers...

When it came time for the fishing gear the boxes were first and it was me and him as others dropped out.

He kept upping the bid and he was not leaving without that box as it was the best one there. I knew he wasnt gonna stop so i dropped out and he won the bid and cleaned up on the other gear.

 

what does he do for a living ? LOL

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1 minute ago, biggin said:

what does he do for a living ? LOL

 

Probably works for a carnival side show?

 

 

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that's not nice !  Just because he's addicted to fishing lures doesn't mean he's a freak. ? Although he kills it catching the same fish on many different lures. It's not like there's a smorgasbord of critters for the fish to eat. They're not needed, but who's to say how much someone can own of anything ? 

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58 minutes ago, throttleplate said:

the yak man

Hahaha.  I watch some of his videos too but half the time he ain't even fishing in ND anymore.  He's fishing across the border in MN!  And I'm sure that the majority of his film is NOT catching anything either, and what we see is when he actually does catch something.  At least his vids aren't choked full of annoying music.

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7 minutes ago, gimruis said:

Hahaha.  I watch some of his videos too but half the time he ain't even fishing in ND anymore.  He's fishing across the border in MN!  And I'm sure that the majority of his film is NOT catching anything either, and what we see is when he actually does catch something.  At least his vids aren't choked full of annoying music.

like I said before, there are no segments breaks in most of his vids If you watch them. He does mention at times how many fish he catches for the day, alot at times. He will mention if he didn't, and to catch a huge musky for the day at the first cast, would be enough for me ! 

 

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2 minutes ago, biggin said:

like I said before, there are no segments breaks in most of his vids If you watch them.

Impossible.  You can't fit an entire day or even half a day of fishing into a 20 minute video.  Its edited.

 

Also he should be wearing a PFD too.  One of these times he's going to end up in the drink and that'll be the end of the "yak man."

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3 minutes ago, gimruis said:

Impossible.  You can't fit an entire day or even half a day of fishing into a 20 minute video.  Its edited.

 

Also he should be wearing a PFD too.  One of these times he's going to end up in the drink and that'll be the end of the "yak man."

ok I'll give you that, duh, however, there are times where he cast catches, and does a repeat, casts and catches that's what I meant. 

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14 hours ago, biggin said:

The guy who took me on his boat took me bank fishing and constantly caught fish where I didn't, every time. ????????

The answer to your question is simple. He's dialed in to this spot or the other spots he's taken you to and you're not. It's hard to explain "dialed-in". Most people who are couldn't explain it if they tried. It's not just one or two things. It's several points of developed awareness coupled with data. It isn't just bait and location. Until it all clicks, you'll struggle in tough places, and your catches will often boil down to random dumb luck. Stick with it if you have the desire to. Maybe it'll click eventually.

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