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What Makes A Rod Tip Heavy?

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I read a lot about tip heavy rods and have begun to wonder why?

In a few recent posts there have been mentions of stcroixs over 7 feet as tip heavy. The heaviest st croix I own is a 7'medium spinning rod. It's actually the stoutest rod I own and I built it with a short handle as I felt my factory 7mlf handle was to long. It has a 8oz reel on it and feels nice in hand.

So back to my question how and what makes a rod tip heavy?

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A combination of the following in this order IMO:

 

Handle length & material

blank construction

components (more & heavier guides, heavy epoxy finishes)

 

I'd much rather have as light a total weight as possible and the most comfortable grip length. There is almost always some weight or pressure on the tip from the bait and don't personally notice or pursue the perceived "weightless" feeling of a "balanced" rod. A truly tip heavy rod is usually just poor design and easily avoided in a good custom build without the addition of weight.

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Any rod where the tip feels heavier than zero when you hold and fish it is "tip heavy".  The longer the rod, the more leverage the tip has, so longer rods tend to feel more tip heavy, all other factors held equal.  Rods used for touchy-feely bottom presentations like dropshotting, jigs, or T-rigs feel more sensitive when the rod tip weight is neutral while you work the bait.  Rods used for moving bait presentations like crankbaits, swimbaits, or spinnerbaits are always tip heavy due to the pressure exerted by the bait as it moves through the water, so tip-heaviness is largely irrelevant to those presentations.

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In all honesty the Mike and Bob have hit it right on. I have a few rods that I consider tip-heavy. I don't find it anything to worry about unless it's really bad and most of my rods are 7'+. A quality rod from a quality manufacturer may be a little tip heavy but some of that is the reel makers fault for making reels so light. I use a 7'1" st Croix ltb med-fast that weighs 4.0ozs and that is paired with a revo premier that weighs 5.9ozs for a combo that weighs under 10ozs. I would say it's as close to balanced as possible but I'm with Mike. I want a light weight setup over one that is heavier but balanced.

I just bought a daiwa s-class rod it's 6'6" med-hvy ex-fast and it's the most tip heavy rod I have besides my 7'11" flippin rod. With a revo std the balance point is a good 2" past the front of the reel. Swap the 6.3 oz revo for a 7.8 oz tatula type-r and the balance point is about a half an inch in front of the reel.

So before you worry too much about it realize that its really a preference thing, some people can't stand it some don't care.

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My freshwater set ups feel reel good, light (my opinion of light) and comfortable.  Don't pay too much attention to balance as I use different weight lures so the balance is never constant, although I do not overload the rods.  Being a spinning user I have my hand placed in front of the reel which moves the balance point up, don't notice tip heavy being much of an issue.

I have combos where the rod is consistently loaded over max, they will always feel tip heavy.  In my experience these overloaded tip heavy rods cast further, not something I typically use for bass fishing.

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Just another thing to consider................I see a lot of people whining about "tip heavy" rods when the hold them in a store with nor reels on them, and/or tags, anti-theft thingies, etc....festooned to the blank. Get the store to take that crap off, and put a reel on it before you decide it's tip heavy.

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The quest for super light reels can make the lightest rod feel tipheavy too. I have a NFC DS rod that is under 3oz and it feels nicer with my Stradic Mg 2500 than with my CI4 2500.

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The tip is heavy when you can swing a 10 pound cement block.

 

P.S. Yipee, I made the 500 mark!

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The tip is heavy when you can swing a 10 pound cement block.

P.S. Yipee, I made the 500 mark!

Congrats, now say thank you and you will have 501.

Hootie

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Congrats, now say thank you and you will have 501.

Hootie

 

Kind of a lame 500th post, I should have done a long and detailed "Joe S" type of deal :).

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I strongly agree ww2, people pick up a rod in the store and judge it right there, tags, theft thingy and no reel. Terrible, then i go on the internet and see someone complaining that they went to the store, was going to buy this rod but they picked it up and it was tip heavy and bla bla bla. 

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