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On 3/17/2016 at 2:02 PM, iabass8 said:

San Diego Jam or the Shaw Grigsby which I believe is a double San Diego Jam

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  • San Diego Jam or the Shaw Grigsby which I believe is a double San Diego Jam

  • Fishin' Fool
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    Never had an issue with the Palomar just wet your line before cinching.

  • 1simplemann
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    No love for improved clinch? It's all I use. No complaints.

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A palomar knot is AWEFUL for FC Line as it cuts into itself ! A-Mart claims to have lost too many fish for this reason , so Improved Clinch knot , Triline knot , San Diego knots for me ...

According to knot test .com or something like that whether Palomar is srongest then uni unless using a straight shank hook then it is a snell.  It seems some have had trouble with a Palomar so I use a double line uni for FC, Palomar also doubled up (4 lines through the eye) with braid, and snell when flipping with straight shank hooks.  There are videos with Arron Martens and Dean Rojas tying the uni and Palomar knots doubled.   The San Diego jam knot did not do that well on machine test

On March 19, 2016 at 8:36 AM, ChrisD46 said:

A palomar knot is AWEFUL for FC Line as it cuts into itself ! A-Mart claims to have lost too many fish for this reason , so Improved Clinch knot , Triline knot , San Diego knots for me ...

Amart now uses a double uni.

On 3/18/2016 at 3:46 AM, crypt said:

double pitzen  even use to on mono

You mean the Jimmy Houston Knot?  LOL

Shaw Grigsby knot

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Thanks alot of good feedback

Palomar, needs tied a certain way and never have problems. Line or hook breaks/straightens out first.

Palomar, but it honestly depends on the line in question. Works great on sunline and seaguar, the more supple lines.

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I never had any problems with a palomar knot.

  • Super User

I've also never had issues with the palomar knot and I use it for braid, mono, and fluoro. For that reason it still remains my top choice and go to knot.

Mark Zona's "shark knot". As simple as it gets and strong.

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I don't care if you're Aaron Martin or not if you let your line cross each other on the original loop of a Palomar knot it will cut itself.

With fluorocarbon if you don't wet it properly it will fail!

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On 3/17/2016 at 3:24 PM, roadwarrior said:

Duncan Knot, also  known as a 16/20 or Pitzen Knot.

http://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots/pitzen-knot

 

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What is the difference between the Duncan and the San Diego jam?

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San Diego jam knot has several names;

Duncan, Pitzen, Double SD jam knot is also called Shaw Grigsby knot.

Seagaur line suggest using the improved clinch knot for their FC line.

I use the SD jam knot for FC line to tie hooks and lures unless the hook wire diameter exceeds 1/16 (.062D) , then use the double SD jam knot.

With FC line knots you must practice, practice, practice,  wet the line and test it and re tie if you notice any flaws.

Tom

Palomar and double improved clinch.. If tied correctly. 

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23 hours ago, MickD said:

What is the difference between the Duncan and the San Diego jam?

The only difference is that the tag end is put through the bottom opening before going through the top loop. That extra step is intended to add strength to the line when useing braid. 

However, you do not put the looped tag end through the bottom loop when tieing the double. It bunches it up too much which will cause weak spots especially for line over 10# 12#

 

Mike

The Improved Clinch Knot.

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On 3/19/2016 at 8:36 AM, ChrisD46 said:

A palomar knot is AWEFUL for FC Line as it cuts into itself ! A-Mart claims to have lost too many fish for this reason , so Improved Clinch knot , Triline knot , San Diego knots for me ...

Well if we're going off of what pros say... KVD uses palomar for fluoro and he's one of the best of all time

Jimmy Houston knot, probably the same as some others.

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I've found most any useful fishing knot works, IF IT IS WELL TIED. I like Palomar, Uni, and Alberto.

Palomar and san Diego jam 

I tie Palomar on everything and never have problems with it cutting into itself.  If tied properly, it is one of the most solid knots out there. 

On March 18, 2016 at 10:07 AM, roadwarrior said:

Well, as you can see, several knots seem to work just fine. The key is this: "If the knot you tie is not PERFECT, it's not good enough."

I've felt this way for a long time, too.

I don't think which knot one chooses is nearly as important as the level of comfort the angler has in tying that knot, and more specifically, knowing if and when their knot isn't coming together incorrectly.

For that reason, I choose the improved clinch. It's super easy to tie, and it's incredibly easy to recognize when it's not tied correctly and needs to be re-tied. 

On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 7:56 AM, 1simplemann said:

No love for improved clinch? It's all I use. No complaints.

Improved clinch is all I use for fluorocarbon. With momo, I usually go with a Palomar. 

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