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It NADAs around $13,200 although I wasn't able to add things like the boat cover, fish locators and trolling motor which would obviously raise it's value. It also has very low hours on it, I think 30 hours. He's asking $15,900 which seems high, but like I said, I might not have added everything he did. It's a 2006 Ranger with what I assume is a 2006 Johnson 115 horse saltwater outboard on it. If this was inspected by a shop and checked out ok, what would you think is a good price for this boat?

 

https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/boa/5584973989.html

 

 

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What's a good price and what he'll take may be two different numbers.  Most people think their rigs are worth more than they actually are.  You have to decide what you will give and make an offer below that to see how much he is willing to wiggle.  Go from there and see how it plays out.  Some folks aren't willing to budge so you'll just have to open the ball and see how it goes.

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Good price for a Ranger I'd say, the one problem is that boat is way underpowered. Too compare, I paid $10,000 for a 2000 with a 175 Mercury and it wasn't in as good as shape as that boat. And I sold it to a guy who then sold it for $13,000. Rangers hold there value. 

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44 minutes ago, RyneB said:

Good price for a Ranger I'd say, the one problem is that boat is way underpowered. Too compare, I paid $10,000 for a 2000 with a 175 Mercury and it wasn't in as good as shape as that boat. And I sold it to a guy who then sold it for $13,000. Rangers hold there value. 

 

How fast do you think that boat will go?

I don't need 70mph.  45-50mph is fine. 

Unless that boat is so underpowered it would strain the motor. 

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 That price seems to have some personal value rather than actual market value in it based on his post. It does look like that boat was ridiculously well taken care of though .  By the pictures it looks almost show room new which is a really good find. I wouldn't pay his asking price but it's probably not too far off with the condition that it's in.   I don't know the specifics about that particular hull Storage wise but personally I wouldn't pay that for a boat that had short rod lockers. That's just a personal opinion though. I have a lot of 7'3" + rods that I want to be able to store in the locker and not on the deck in the way

boat should run around 45-50.  My old ranger with the 175 on the back and a four blade 25 pitch prop ran 58 to 60 .

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Ask the guy about having the motor checked out professionaly. If the 30 hours on the motor is true the motor did a lot of sitting. Might have dry rot gaskets and rubber. If it wasn't stored properly there could be internal corrosion

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Asking price is high if you ask me. 

I have an 01' R73 with an Evinrude 115 (so pretty close match to this), and it does about 43 top speed. 45 with the wind at your back maybe. Plenty fast for a 17.5' boat.  I bought mine in 08' for $10,000 and change and it was in pristine condition.  

That said...........I wish I'd bought a bigger boat especially with whats on the markets today. You can get more for that money if you're not set on a Ranger.  Don't get me wrong, I love Ranger boats but if I could do it over I might have opted for a bigger boat, different brand at the same value.  just my .02

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That boat specs are as follows: 17 1/2 long Beam 87 inches weight 1365 pounds gas capacity 25 gallons and most importantly max horse power 115 horse power. A little research tells a lot. The boat is not under powered it is max powered.  Noe that does not mean it has any more room however.  These are nice boats and in its condition should be worth a look into. The dual consoles are nice but take up room. First thing to do is physically check it out. Look at you tackle and think where you would store your stuff and I might even take my longest rod and see if the rod locker works for you. It is a nice boat

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37 minutes ago, fishnkamp said:

That boat specs are as follows: 17 1/2 long Beam 87 inches weight 1365 pounds gas capacity 25 gallons and most importantly max horse power 115 horse power. A little research tells a lot. The boat is not under powered it is max powered.  Noe that does not mean it has any more room however.  These are nice boats and in its condition should be worth a look into. The dual consoles are nice but take up room. First thing to do is physically check it out. Look at you tackle and think where you would store your stuff and I might even take my longest rod and see if the rod locker works for you. It is a nice boat

Max HP on a 17.5' ranger is 130. Not drastically under powered but it depends on the engine condition.

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I've always said,  when a seller feels he's getting too little and the buyer feels he's paying too much, you've reached the right price. 

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3 hours ago, fishnkamp said:

That boat specs are as follows: 17 1/2 long Beam 87 inches weight 1365 pounds gas capacity 25 gallons and most importantly max horse power 115 horse power. A little research tells a lot. The boat is not under powered it is max powered.  Noe that does not mean it has any more room however.  These are nice boats and in its condition should be worth a look into. The dual consoles are nice but take up room. First thing to do is physically check it out. Look at you tackle and think where you would store your stuff and I might even take my longest rod and see if the rod locker works for you. It is a nice boat

 

 

How did you find this out?

 

 

I couldn't even find if it was a Svs or other. 

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IMO, that's high.  as for add-ons adding value, they need to be somewhat current.  That old Garmin won't add anything to the price, but I'm sure he added what he paid for it to his asking price.

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17.5' dual console will have a short rod locker and front deck area. 

To me it's very important that the boat and trailer was garaged and out of the weather.

No reason to offer full price or not get everything including TM and sonar units.

Tom

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tcbass go here for info on the boat. The first page is a write up with photos.  Click specs and you can see  all of the info I pulled my response from. Just took a little detective work on google to find it. http://www.boatfarm.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?veh=19331  Max horsepower is clearly listed as 115 hp for that hull not 130

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If that boat fits your needs, and is in great condition, I'd give him a fair offer based on the NADA, maybe go all the way up to 14k if the motor check out as pristine. If he bites, good, you get a boat. If he stands firm, no worries you have all the time in the world to look elsewhere while your offer stands... Maybe come January or February he drops his price...

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2 hours ago, fishnkamp said:

tcbass go here for info on the boat. The first page is a write up with photos.  Click specs and you can see  all of the info I pulled my response from. Just took a little detective work on google to find it. http://www.boatfarm.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?veh=19331  Max horsepower is clearly listed as 115 hp for that hull not 130

You might want to be looking up the correct boat for him before giving him what he should and shouldn't be looking for...The ad in question is for a 2006, not a 2005(your link is the 2005). 2006 175's have a max HP of 130. 

http://www.72marine.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?veh=32399&CatDesc=&=#detail

 

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2 hours ago, Avalonjohn44 said:

If that boat fits your needs, and is in great condition, I'd give him a fair offer based on the NADA, maybe go all the way up to 14k if the motor check out as pristine. If he bites, good, you get a boat. If he stands firm, no worries you have all the time in the world to look elsewhere while your offer stands... Maybe come January or February he drops his price...

NADA is not necessarily a great judge, just a starting point. It's what banks and insurance companies use to value boats and may not necessarily be a real world price. That being said, I agree with you. If the boat fits the OP's needs and it checks out mechanically, go for it 

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I stand corrected  I am surprised since Ranger did not change the length or beam.  Had to be a marketing/packaging change. They could not  have changed the transom much since the hull weight did not change

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6 hours ago, Avalonjohn44 said:

If that boat fits your needs, and is in great condition, I'd give him a fair offer based on the NADA, maybe go all the way up to 14k if the motor check out as pristine. If he bites, good, you get a boat. If he stands firm, no worries you have all the time in the world to look elsewhere while your offer stands... Maybe come January or February he drops his price...

 

 

 

Thanks for the recommendation on price. It's good to know that $14,000 is the max to pay for that boat. 

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14k would be max. great boat.

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He wants a little too much at the moment. I think a deal is reachable if you're planning on keeping it for a while though. Boat is in pristine condition. Electronics are outdated, and in need of additional money to update, but aside from that it looks great. Personally I probably wouldn't buy a 17 footer with a dual console just because it takes up a lot of space, and usually cuts into the rod locker. An 18 on up I like the additional console. If it works for you then you're golden and it'd make a great boat. The only thing I'd check on is the motor and make sure the saltwater series doesn't have the longer shaft. That could be a drawback if it does. It doesn't look like it in the pics, but it's worth looking into. The 115 isn't drastically under powered, and should push it into the mid 40's. 

 

On 7/8/2016 at 3:54 PM, tcbass said:

How did you find this out?

I couldn't even find if it was a Svs or other. 

Most of the boat's in the VS and VX series had this designation. Depending on the year, it was sometimes put on the boat, and other times left off (like this one). In both of these series, a VS model was the single console version, the DVS/DVX was the dual console model. I believe they used that designation all the way up until the Z series with removable console. The cap of the boat was no longer made from a different mold, since the passenger console is just bolted in. 

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I understand his interest in getting top dollar.  All of us do.  However, its important he understand that time is not on his side.

He says in his CL post "  The boat is paid for and I do not have to sell it "  .  That's good and all as long as he understands that with each passing year, his asset value drops.

You can use NADA to see what kind of year over year depreciation he can expect to see.  Also he is paying for insurance and possible storage costs in the winter.  This starts to add up.

And...from his location in MSP (and from the pics) he does NOT likely have a garage large enough to store 2 boats.  So if he takes care of his stuff (like it appears that he does) he has to find additional storage.

Expect to pay a little higher than NADA if it truly is pristine and the motor checks out as such.  But use this rational approach to break through his emotional attachment to the boat and his pride of great ownership.  Time and $$ is on YOUR side on this one.

Good luck!

 

 

 

 

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Exceptionally clean high quality used bass boats are hard to find.  He will get close to asking price. 

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On 7/8/2016 at 5:39 AM, RyneB said:

Good price for a Ranger I'd say, the one problem is that boat is way underpowered.

That's the problem, right there.

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