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I am wandering if someone out there can fix this or am I out of luck ? The rod broke just below the last eye 4 inches ?

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Danny

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Contact Kistler, we can't help you.

Tom

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You can put a new tip on it, Fuji sells kits that you can buy at a lot of stores or any rod builder in your area can help you. I'm not sure what size you will need though. Breaking off any of the tip will likely greatly change how the rod fishes, it isn't going to be the same rod it was before the break.

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16 minutes ago, WRB said:

Contact Kistler, we can't help you.

Tom

 

28 minutes ago, ddossett1976 said:

I am wandering if someone out there can fix this or am I out of luck ? 

Thanks,

Danny

It depends on if the breakage is covered under warranty. Contact Kistler and weigh your options as the rod may get replaced under warranty if not another option is to have a local guy repair rod to salvage the rod.

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1 minute ago, Stephen B said:

 

It depends on if the breakage is covered under warranty. Contact Kistler and weigh your options as the rod may get replaced under warranty if not another option is to have a local guy repair rod to salvage the rod if possible. 

Yeah, contact Kistler, I have no idea what their warranty is but that is where I would start.

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I would like to see how this plays out, I have Helium that the foregrip fell apart and have sent multiple emails 

without any response.

 

Its been since December....

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If Kistler won’t repair/replace:

 

I had Delaware Valley Tackle splice a tip back on one of my rods.  This way you retain the original action of the rod.  If you just put a new eye on the end the broken rod, will work but you’ll end up with an XXXF tip.  

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9 minutes ago, FryDog62 said:

If Kistler won’t repair/replace:

 

I had Delaware Valley Tackle splice a tip back on one of my rods.  This way you retain the original action of the rod.  If you just put a new eye on the end the broken rod, will work but you’ll end up with an XXXF tip.  

You are right that the action will be ruined if you simply replace the tip, but it will not be XXXF.  It will in fact be a lot stiffer (more power) but slower.  Regardless, it will not be, IMHO, fishable.  4 inches is too much.  

 

And you are right that usually a good repair can be done.  

https://www.rodbuilding.org/library/repair-oquinn.html

 

I've done a number of these and they have all worked fine.  

 

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8 hours ago, Yumeya said:

I would like to see how this plays out, I have Helium that the foregrip fell apart and have sent multiple emails 

without any response.

 

Its been since December....

Call Trey...don't e-mail. 

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I don't know if I'd waste the effort and money trying to replace the tip. Once you do that, the rod just isn't the same, period.  Definitely need to call Trey.  I've talked to him on the phone before.  Super nice guy.  While I don't believe their warranty will give you a replacement, Trey might give you a discount on a new rod.  Worth asking. 

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What IABASS8 said.  CALL Trey Kistler.  

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11 hours ago, Yumeya said:

I would like to see how this plays out, I have Helium that the foregrip fell apart and have sent multiple emails 

without any response.

 

Its been since December....

That sucks! I had a Falcon buccoo micro that was 7 years out of warranty. I contacted Falcon and told them it was out of warranty and asked if they could fix it. They sent me a brand new rod all I had to pay was shipping.

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5 hours ago, RichF said:

don't know if I'd waste the effort and money trying to replace the tip.

Your comment can be interpreted a couple ways.  If you mean it's a waste to replace the tiptop, you're right.  If you mean it's a waste to repair the rod, I believe you are in error.  By putting on an external sleeve as instructed in the link I posted a good repair can be done.  The action and power will be essentially the same.  On one of my repairs I had the history of the CCS data when the rod was new, and I checked it after repair.  Data unchanged.  It obviously will be  a little heavier, by the weight of the sleeve and epoxy, but I couldn't feel it.

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27 minutes ago, MickD said:

Your comment can be interpreted a couple ways.  If you mean it's a waste to replace the tiptop, you're right.  If you mean it's a waste to repair the rod, I believe you are in error.  By putting on an external sleeve as instructed in the link I posted a good repair can be done.  The action and power will be essentially the same.  On one of my repairs I had the history of the CCS data when the rod was new, and I checked it after repair.  Data unchanged.  It obviously will be  a little heavier, by the weight of the sleeve and epoxy, but I couldn't feel it.

From my perspective, a broken rod will never be the same, even if you use an external sleeve to re-connect (which I know nothing about, but would never do anyway).  If it worked for you, I'm sure it will work for others. I just wouldn't have confidence that it would perform like it did before.  As far as I'm concerned, that is/will always be a weak point in the rod.  

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46 minutes ago, RichF said:

From my perspective, a broken rod will never be the same, even if you use an external sleeve to re-connect (which I know nothing about, but would never do anyway).  If it worked for you, I'm sure it will work for others. I just wouldn't have confidence that it would perform like it did before.  As far as I'm concerned, that is/will always be a weak point in the rod.  

A broken rod if repaired is still broke in my mind. Time to buy a new one if it is not under warranty anymore IMO

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Bummer. It must be tough for them making this type of quality in the US. And not charging super premium prices (i.e., more than z-bone prices for everything). As I have never broken a rod, I’ll still be getting a Helium Heavy Mod for the Scorpion MGL I’m getting next month 🐒 —> 🦍

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In the purest world where money doesn't  matter and perfection is assumed, yes, the rod is broken and not worth trying to salvage.  In the world I know and live in, if I can salvage a rod that costs a significant amount of money to replace, I'll do it.  Worst case scenario, it breaks again.  Most likely scenario, it works forever as intended.  

 

But I have data that says the repaired rod will fish just as well as it did before breaking.  If we disregard what is going on in our heads.  Which I admit, is not insignificant.

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So... I did the exact same thing - I broke the tip of my rod about 6-8" from the tip of the rod of my Helium II LTX fighting a simple 1lb bass. I even have it on video. Warranty or replacement was lacking. I think I got a $50 discount on a new rod and i was to send in my old one all chopped up. I'm no longer spending big money on rods.

 

But all is not lost - I just went to http://www.lurepartsonline.com/ and bought a replacement tip when I used a micrometer to measure the thickness of the rod blank at the tip and glued it on with superglue. Think it cost me $12 including shipping. I don't see much of a differnce in the rod action as it was a medium to begin with and has moderate action.

 

Here is where you can relive my pain (and hear it in my voice)

 

 

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how the rod was after guide replacment

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2 hours ago, HenryPF said:

So... I did the exact same thing - I broke the tip of my rod about 6-8" from the tip of the rod of my Helium II LTX fighting a simple 1lb bass. I even have it on video. Warranty or replacement was lacking. I think I got a $50 discount on a new rod and i was to send in my old one all chopped up. I'm no longer spending big money on rods.

 

But all is not lost - I just went to http://www.lurepartsonline.com/ and bought a replacement tip when I used a micrometer to measure the thickness of the rod blank at the tip and glued it on with superglue. Think it cost me $12 including shipping. I don't see much of a differnce in the rod action as it was a medium to begin with and has moderate action.

 

Here is where you can relive my pain (and hear it in my voice)

 

 

 

When you high stick any rod they will break eventually.

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That video is like a list of everything to never do with a rod. Everything goes with dink’s, but once you get into real fish, that’s what’ll happen. I cringed at all the high stickin, the grabbing the rod halfway between the reel and first guide and felt actual pain when I saw thumb holding the spool to stop the drag and lift the fish on a high stick short line :stupid:

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I never do that with a rod. That's why they make nets.

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