For the purposes of wacky rigging, are there times that a trick worm, or mag trick worm outshine a senko?  Why throw one over the other?  Thanks yall.

For wacky rigging I've always used senko types - that said the trick worm has caught tons of bass for me but usually on jig or t-rigged. I know guys wacky rig tricks but I've never seen the need, but then I'm lazy.

Rate of fall ?

9 minutes ago, Catt said:

Rate of fall ?

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1 hour ago, Catt said:

Rate of fall

Please expound.  Which falls faster and application.  Thanks!

Senko falls quite a bit faster than a trick worm.  Application?  Use what gets bit.  I almost never use a trick worm for wacky rigs.  I have a few bags on hand, but they aren't my go to like a Senko.

I prefer to rig larger worms like Trick worms or Magnums Neko style.  With a nail weight in one end they do fall faster, but the tail sticks straight up off the bottom.  Sometimes a slow sinking wacky worm gets bit, sometimes a Neko tail sticking up from the bottom works - like Francho said - have to see what the fish prefer.  I like wacky worming when targeting the top half of the water column and Neko-rigging when targeting the bottom half.  Action is similar, but I typically use the larger 6-8 inch worms Neko and save the 4-5 inchers for wacky.  

I almost never wacky rig because I seen to have better luck weightless texas rigged with both baits. I use the trick worm in shallower water and a senior style bait in deeper water. Rate of fall there too..seems to me in super shallow water a senko is on bottom instantly while trick worm hovers in there face long enough to trigger a bite. Just my experience.

I will use a trick worm on a flick shake head. Just something I started doing as the waters I used to fish were heavily pressured and lots of folks were throwing a senko wacky style. Was something a little different and got me bites when I couldn’t on a senko.

Trick worm wins every contest it enters in my book 

For me the biggest thing a wacky rigged bait needs to have is a subtle wiggle when it's falling. If it falls completely dead... Junk. After that rate of fall is critical sometimes but you can easily tweak that. 

I only wacky and weightless Texas rig with the tried and true Senko. 

 

I use Trick worms weighted on a Texas rig. 

5 hours ago, MassYak85 said:

For me the biggest thing a wacky rigged bait needs to have is a subtle wiggle when it's falling. If it falls completely dead... Junk. After that rate of fall is critical sometimes but you can easily tweak that. 

The trick worm and finesse worm from zoom do some very subtle shimmying 

9 hours ago, Catt said:

Rate of fall ?

 

7 hours ago, BoatSquirrel said:

Please expound.  Which falls faster and application.  Thanks!

 

7 hours ago, J Francho said:

Senko falls quite a bit faster than a trick worm.  Application?  Use what gets bit.  I almost never use a trick worm for wacky rigs.  I have a few bags on hand, but they aren't my go to like a Senko.

 

Rate of fall is key to getting bit on plastics or jigs.

 

If I want to speed up the rate of fall with a Trick worm I'll add a nail weight. The same can be used with the Senko.

 

Most anglers ignore rate of fall & miss a lot of catchable bass.

I like senkos but if I could only use one soft plastic,  it would be a trickworm!

4 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

The trick worm and finesse worm from zoom do some very subtle shimmying 

Maybe a good followup the day after a senko beatdown or 2nd trip down a bank...

I mainly use senko style baits, I prefer it because it has many more choices of rigging besides just texas rig & wacky rig.

 

On ‎4‎/‎9‎/‎2020 at 2:38 PM, Swbass15 said:

I will use a trick worm on a flick shake head. Just something I started doing as the waters I used to fish were heavily pressured and lots of folks were throwing a senko wacky style. Was something a little different and got me bites when I couldn’t on a senko.

A 1/16th oz. wacky jig head (VMC) and a Trick Worm can be deadly and worked faster than just a wacky hook . Cast it out and give it the occasional pop while sinking , then lift , shake and drop a few times after it hits the bottom.

For some reason I've had great luck with a wacky jighead and trick worms for smallmouth. Doesn't work as good for largemouth, but smallies tear it up, especially post spawn.

On 4/9/2020 at 8:16 PM, Catt said:

Rate of fall is key to getting bit on plastics or jigs.

 

If I want to speed up the rate of fall with a Trick worm I'll add a nail weight. The same can be used with the Senko.

 

Most anglers ignore rate of fall & miss a lot of catchable bass.

 

Nailed it. Sorry, bad pun. 

 

This is the answer why sometimes a wacky rigged trick worm works better than a wacky rigged Senko and why sometimes a nail weighted wacky rigged trick worm has a spot between the two.

 

Something about speed and depth control......  

Hard to beat a weightless Senko in heavy cover, prefer a Zinkerz post spawn. 

 

Tail up configuration, I like Zoom finesse and Zman wormZ. 

I like using a trick worm because they do fall slower and stay in the strike zone longer, but I do find myself using a senko more often.

Besides rate of fall general profile can be key too.

 

I have had days where they wouldn't touch a wacky Senko...weighted on a wacky jig, or unweighted BUT...

 

switch to a thinner worm on the same wacky jig or hook, and they start biting. Why? Only they know, but it has happened way too often around here over the years that a wacky rigged thin worm is ALWAYS a part of my "tuff bite" rotation. I prefer the Jackall Flickshake over other worms for this, but Trickworms, swamp crawlers, Roboworms and more have all worked for me and worked well at times.