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What knot do you tie when you can't tie a palomar knot?

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I always use a palomar but some lures are too big for it or at least for me. Lures that are 4 or 5 inches long with treble hooks. What knot do you tie when the lure is too big for the palomar knot?

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  • MeatHead1313
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    Uni knot for me

  • FryDog62
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    Everything I learned from my friend that used to do the "Knot Wars" competition on North American Fisherman - was that statistically the strongest knots (by far) were those that ran through the eye of

  • BrianMDTX
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    I rarely tie a Palomar. 98% of my knots are Improved Clinch.

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There's only three knots this guy knows how to tie and it all depends on the line:

Braid - palomar

Mono - improved clinch

FC - double pitzen

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I only use 1 knot for everything and that’s the Pitzen.

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I use Palomar anyway and pull the main line to take up the slack.

But if that’s not possible for whatever reason I’d tie a SDJ for all except bottom contact which is always a Snell anyway

Mike

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San Diego Jam has taken over all my terminal knots. Foolproof, very tough, and easy. 5-ish wraps for thick line, 7-8 for 16lb and under.

scott

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Swindle knot, also known as the 3 tag knot. Its a little bit different knot than the Grigsby knot and others similar to that because 2 of the 3 tags face backwards. The other knots have 3 tags facing forward and catch a lot of debris (and less fish;)

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This must be a trick question. I've never tied a Palomar Knot.

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I rarely tie a Palomar. 98% of my knots are Improved Clinch.

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Improved clinch for braid. I simply increase turns for lower diameter line. SDJ for all plastic lines. It's been at least 5 years since I've been broken off, and that was my fault.

I honestly don't think much about which knot I'm tying. I just tie whatever makes sense for the lure I just grabbed. Palomar get used the most, and is as close to a default as I have. Pitzen get used mostly after that. I was originally taught the "Fisherman's Knot" (improved clinch) when I was a kid, but it feels like it's been a minute since I've tied that one. I tied Uni's for awhile. I've tried a lot of other knots. I'm not too picky. Any knot that is efficient to tie, and strong works for me. I've never had any of these knots fail.

I have fallen in love with fishing fool. It is stronger than the palomar in every line. It cinches insanely on mono. This is important on poppers. You can have a 20 lure alabama rig and wind up with 3 inches tag end. I use it on braid and mono but use my longstanding palomar on florocarbon, as I don't trust my newest knot on floro. I don't always trust the palomar on floro either, but I get by. Lol

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Double SDJ. If I’m feeling 1900’s, I do an improved clinch knot.

Fishin fool 90% of the time. Easy, reliable, works with any type of line.

San Diego, jam knot, for them other times Double Palomar

They are my most used knots.

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Braid palomar

Mono improved clinch

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59 minutes ago, Darth-Baiter said:

Double SDJ. If I’m feeling 1900’s, I do an improved clinch knot.

Ouch! 🤣

All I used for years was the improved clinch knot. I started using the fish-n-fool knot some last year, but found when I was in a hurry the improved clinch knot was used from muscle memory. I'm going to try to give the fish-n-fool more use this season.

Pitzen or San Diego Jam, but...

...I throw a lot of twitch and jerkbaits (and some glides) and those are always on a Loop knot, always.

Anyone use the loop knot to secure their flies? Why should someone consider  using it (or not)? : r/Tenkara

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Everything I learned from my friend that used to do the "Knot Wars" competition on North American Fisherman - was that statistically the strongest knots (by far) were those that ran through the eye of the hook/lure twice. These knots always won head-to-head over the single loop knots. Every.. time...

In fact, a year later when the show changed hands, a new host came in with the knot that was going to knock the Palomar off its top spot. The single loop SDJ knot got smoked by the double loop Palomar quite easily.

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