Quarry Man

don't use keitechs for chatter baits, the rolling and chattering action counter act each other. if you are going to spend a dollar a bait, use a lure like the Yamamoto zako that was made for chatter baits. keitechs work great on their own or on swim jigs

I noticed beast coast has good prices a while back. im set on tungsten for a while. Might try beast coast or om, not sure yet.

I made it clear that I could care less what the correct term is. ummm, because I have that reel on a rod already...

I want to clarify. I was using the term flipping with the connotation of it meaning pitching. I understand the difference and I know they aren't the same thing.

need a new reel for my Dobyns Champion XP 766Flip. I am a Daiwa guy but am trying out some Shimanos. I will be putting 65 lb braid on it. I have a 70 already, but its not used for anything special.

Quarry Man has arrived! I fish a lot of Pennsylvania limestone quarries. They are probably different than the ones in Florida, but I am no geologist. My quarries have steep drop offs on most of the shore line. This provides limited access and limited spacing areas. One of my local 30 acre joints has 90% of the shore line unfishable from shore. Come spring, in a few weeks nap here, it appears as if every fish is on the point that allows for spawning. The water is crystal clear and rocky, although milfoil is taking over in our area. I like to throw ned rigs, just cast em out and let them fall. My grandfather aught an 8.5 lb bass on one with 4 lb test two years ago here. I also like small Texas rigs, pegged 1/8 tungsten 1/0 ewg and a zoom finesse worm. other good lures are walking baits and poppers, these cll em up when they are aggressive. I figured this out when sone rocks spilled over a cliff and several bass swam over to investigate. there good technique is a wacky rig weightless. slow fall is a killer. drop shot with light weight' jerkbait sub 53* doubt thats a thing in Florida. my advice is to fish it like a northern body of water, just vertically. Instead of cover miles of shoreline, cover the entire depth of the water column. Figure out where the fish are first then go through. to summarize: Ned rig finesse texas rig drop shot wacky rig jerkbait popper/spook double willow kid finesse spinnerbait try that out

to semi-quote Kistler "the purpose of raising our prices is so that those who can afford them get more" not sure what is going on with them, but there was a whole enragement about somebody saying that on their official Facebook. Understandbly, people got mad. Who in their right mind would say that, and who would be happy to pay 50$ more? They seem like great rods and I have considered them in the past, but after that and now that they are more expensive ill pass. its like when companies raise their prices 20$ and promote a 5$ off discount (looking @ you dicks sporting goods)

seems like a goooodooddoddoy deal to me

If my semester wasn't canceled, I would be at school. My school is canceled and I am now home. We have been spending time at our lake house. My grandfather and I own our two boats together. My parents are very generous but have never spent a dime on my hobby. I have never asked them to. I in no way intended to complain. I am simply sharing my point of view from a unique perspective. I care a lot about the relationship I have with my parents and enjoy spending time with them. I am fully aware that one day I wish to be back on the water with them. There is zero doubt about that. I am simply asking how to navigate this situation and learn to see the positives better than the negatives. I have come a long way with them and our relationship is very strained. I have received lots of great advice on how to deal with this already along with help to change my perspective. The very reason I am here is because I have identified an issue, realized that it shouldn't be one, and am asking for help from people who have influenced me in more ways than I could ever imagine. I

anybody use the Googan one? I feel as if the company targets groupie teens, but they do have some nice looking buzbaits.

when my mom's father passed away, I was only 11. I wasn't into fishing at the time, and I barely knew that man. He was passionate about fishing and used to take my mom when she was little. Part of the reason why she's goes with me is because it reminds her of her childhood. I wish we had spent more time together now that he is gone and I would love to get the chance to have fished with him. With that being said, my other grandfather loves to fish, mostly because he wants to spend time with me. He is a bi more self sustainable, but I usually end up retying and such for him. I feel that part of me has made a promise to make up for the lost time with mom's dad, with my grandfather. With that being said, how do I make the most of our time together? Obviously spending time together duhh, but I want to really take in what we do.

It was my dad haha and yeah I will talk to them if it continues. Its hard to fish two plus people in a tiny boat I can definitely see where they would want to spend time now that I am home after being gone for a long time. I enjoy fishing with them and will work on things. I figured that wasn't what you meant, but I wasn't sure. I was just frustrated that it was my fault somehow. In the grand scheme of things its only a few dollars out the door.

I want to try sandals because I can get them wet, strap em down for performance mode, have arch support, and look like I know how to fish (most important part)

Thats a great idea, Ill pick up some dollar spinnerbaits at Walmart once quarantine ends. I am very lucky to have two caring parents. I definitely take my life for granted. I normally wouldn't but we are all at my lake house together and they were off from school all week with nothing better to do. I will tell them I need some alone time if this continues. it sure does. I wish my moms dad was still around now that I love fishing. He went all the time. My mom would go with him as a youngster and this is why she goes with me. that would be an understatement. I am not the easiest person in the world thats for sure. thats the reason my mom loves to go so much, she could care less about the fish. Im gonna bring the Daiwa samurais bake out next time with the spinnerbaits from Walmart like I said. Seems foolproof overpriced brand name clothes that "cool kids" waste their money on. 19 I don't follow this part. my parents aren't abusive and nobody wants to fight me. whole thing started because I told mom no more fishing bc it was a babysitting session. For months she tried to guilt me into fishing with her by making me feel terrible and spoiled (rightfully so). I am totally fine "guiding" every so often, but a stressful as it is I can't take 6 hours a day of berating. I will likely confront them soon enough. If they don't agree too bad. As supportive as they are, they are stubborn and controlling at times and I am slowly losing my tolerance for it.

thanks, ill probably give these and the moabs a shot

This is gonna come off as selfish and unappreciative but that isn't my intention. I fully respect my parents and am grateful for the life and relationships they have given me. My parents are suddenly interested in fishing. Thats great I love them and usually enjoy spending time with them. I have gone out a bunch the last couple days, and each time they insist on coming. I like not having to fish alone, but sometimes I need to just relax by myself. fishing is my escape. I enjoy teaching beginners and acting like a guide. My parents have no interest in learning how to fish. Mom wants to keep me company (aww) and dad just wants to catch. My mom doesn't understand that you don't just cast and reel. I got her on few 2lbers with ned rigs one day, did fine. Next day we went trout fishing and gave her cast and reel lure. Next day back to Neds and she's reeling 100 mph. I tell her several times to reel slow, doesn't work. Oh well I tried, don't think she cares, just wants to be with me. The next day we go powwerbaiting for trout, every 3 minutes she's reeling in her bait. I tell her that you need to let it sit and she says how she was casting and reeling yesterday so now she's doing the same today. I say it doesn't work like that. She keeps getting tangled with her other line because she doesn't grasp where to cast and the constants retrieving doesn't help. Eventually I lose my temper a bit and get frustrated. Maybe a bit over the top, but slightly warranted. I had barely had the opportunity to fish because every 3 minutes im cutting the line due to tangles. She also drops my nice reels on the cement like its not a big deal. I cover my rods and reels and treat them like the babies they are. Almost none of my reels even have a scratch. As far as dad goes, I backed the boat down, got it in the water, then realized the winch strap was still on, pulled it out and he started yelling bc he almost fell in somehow. All good, but it irks me a bit. We fix it, everything is good. Buddy decides to jump into my 14' boat and of course he lands on my $300 rod. O freak out saying why did you do that all the rods are exactly where you jumped. He freaks saying its nay fault I didn't tell him what to do. Then the boats floating away because I wasn't anticipating a sudden takeoff. He can't figure out how to turn the tm on and come back to the dock. Then mr Powerful adult dad blames me for my rod breaking and uses his authority to make me at fault. I spend all my money on fishing and gas to go to work or fishing. I don't go for joy rides, I don't buy Gucci, I don't go to Starbucks everyday, don't go to the movies. I am frugal bc I love fishing and thats how I want to spend my money. I like good rods and downplay the amount I spend on rods bc the parents won't get it. I hate not being able to relax and be able to fish myself. Instead I am constantly dealing with other people's messes. TLDR: I love my parents, I love spending time with them, I love teaching people to fish, I hate babysitting adults, I hate when careless acts destroy my hard earned gear. I am normally very complacent, but my parents are the two people who really get me going sometimes. How do you deal with this kinda stuff? I want to continue fishing with them, but not if its unenjoyable and extremely expensive on my end. In the future I will not be bringing my expensive gear, we will use fewer lines and I will give mom a cast and reel 100% of the time. I will be more instructive at the ramp with my dad.

what nets do y'all use? I have an EGO net and like it, handle comes off a lot. I know @A-Jay loves the frabil conservation (correct me if I am wrong). might consider that down the road. Keep in mind I am fishing out of a 14-16' boat

Looking at those to practice rucking, seems to be very popular in SOF, my ultimate goal I tried my dads on today and loved em. I like the look and functionality of those shoes. How do you like the insole? Can I add my own and remove the old one?

I realize that there are likely a lot of threads out there, but I am looking for some specific advice. I am a fan of high end gear and clothes. I have been using ski bibs and a ski jacket as my outerwear for a few years. As I get more invested in the sport, I decided to buy a set of bibs. I went with the Simms Challenger. Main purpose will be to keep me warm on chilly mornings until the sun gets up, and also for fishing in the rain/wind. I will be using my GORE-TEX ski jacket that I have from work. I figure if its worth $600 it better do just fine. It is just a shell. Underneath, I have various clothing items that will all work just fine. I typically wear sperry boat shoes or sneakers on the boat. I usually end up taking them off due to foot pain or comfort. I am planning on getting a pair of Chaco sandals for the really warm days. On cold or rainy days, I have a nice pair of boots and a pair of bean boots respectively. Looking for a pair of sneakers that are breathable and look good with the bibs. Mainly for days that aren't crazy warm or cold, like 60-75*. Looking atat the Simms Challenger Boat shoe specifically, but can't find my size. Will also add an insole likely.

Well then he'd have room for the net because some of that beer is gone...

I would argue that braided and coated clear mesh is the best type of net. It may be heavier, but the pros outweigh the cons. 1. Fish don't see the clear net as well and are less likely to thrash at its site and are more likely to swim into it. 2. Hooks don't get tangled as bad with the mesh, saves time money and nets. 3. Mesh only has the possibility of fish biting through when netting head first. I have had open mouthed pike and pickerel bite rite through the mesh. I now use a mesh net that is dipped in rubber, seems to work. I carry tiptoes to repair the net when a break occurs.

I am excited to try this line out.

thats the point of this thread

how to remove treble hooks: PLIERS, somehow I forgot to add the part,

I find it easier to skip backhand with a spinning rod. I was forced to learn that way growing up fishing a dock lake in a Jon boat I always was in the front and we had our right shoulders towards the bank when facing forward. hope that makes sense. because we were in a small boat I had to back hand and buddy in the back on the tm hand to cast forehand/normally in order to avoid hitting each other.