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Gonna pick a few more prop baits and was wondering what you guys thought about these 2.

I know the Devils Horse are more popular around here but was wondering if anyone has used both and can give any comparisons.

 

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Mike

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The reason nobody has replied to your thread is nobody fishes prop baits anymore.  Good for us as they surely catch fish.  Covering water with a whopper plopper or a buzzbait has become much more popular— at least until somebody wins a big tournament on a prop bait. 

I prefer longer baits like a Devils Horse in prespawn then once summer gets here, smaller baits like a Crazy Shad.  

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9 minutes ago, BoatSquirrel said:

The reason nobody has replied to your thread is nobody fishes prop baits anymore.  Good for us as they surely catch fish.  Covering water with a whopper plopper or a buzzbait has become much more popular— at least until somebody wins a big tournament on a prop bait. 

I prefer longer baits like a Devils Horse in prespawn then once summer gets here, smaller baits like a Crazy Shad.  

 

Here's what I don't understand:  A whopper plopper is a propbait.  It is a floating topwater with a propeller. There is no clear definition of "propbait" that wouldn't include a whopper plopper.  It is certainly more a propbait than it is a buzzbait..

 

Yet nobody ever calls it a propbait.

 

Why is this?

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I have a couple of Devils Horse lures and I can't get a fish to look at them.

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Mike, between these two I've done better on the Devils Horse. I use the 1/2 oz in shad pattern.

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I use the Rapala Skitter Prop all the time, which is very similar.

It only has a prop in the rear but it catches tons of fish.1026888322_ScreenShot2019-02-24at1_47_22PM.png.36575178fbdcc8e75fa498a6ead479db.png

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Thanks fellas. 

I like the 2 I asked about because unlike a buzzbait I can use them as a jerkbait over submerged emergent eel grass that's just starting to come out on Big O and the Stick Marsh. 

 

Also by adjusting the props they can be made to squeek a little, and increase or decrease thier spitting if needed which can't be done on either the buzz or plopper. 

 

Was just curious what everyone's thoughts were. 

 

 

Thanks 

 

 

Mike

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9 minutes ago, waymont said:

I use the Rapala Skitter Prop all the time, which is very similar.

It only has a prop in the rear but it catches tons of fish.1026888322_ScreenShot2019-02-24at1_47_22PM.png.36575178fbdcc8e75fa498a6ead479db.png

Thumbs up for the Skitter Prop, Tiny Torpedo also. There are a few prop fans around.

 

Buzz baits will have their place being thrown over grass.

 

Whopper Plopper has issues picking up pieces of grass. I've only thrown the smaller 90's. Maybe I should throw larger. 

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1 hour ago, MIbassyaker said:

 

Here's what I don't understand:  A whopper plopper is a propbait.  It is a floating topwater with a propeller. There is no clear definition of "propbait" that wouldn't include a whopper plopper.  It is certainly more a propbait than it is a buzzbait..

 

Yet nobody ever calls it a propbait.

 

Why is this?

We should call it a PLOPBAIT!!!

 

Just kidding. We do need a more dignified way of talking about it that a “whopper plopper style lure”...I feel like an idiot any time I mention it to someone who doesn’t know about it. Even though it is a propbait it is so different I think it should be distinguished. 

 

How about “single-bladed propbait” or a “chopper style lure” or a “chopbait”?

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Smithwick Devil Horse comes in 2 versions a double front and back props and a single rear prop model. Haven't fished with Cordell Boy Howdy prop lure, everyone claimed they tended to roll and twist line.

Prior to the pencil shape Devil Horse Smithwick made wooden Pa Scotter and Buck N Brawl rear prop lures that work great. Take a look on EBay for the Pa Scotter and Buck N Brawl, change the hooks, this lure can be walked and also jumps, good big bass lures.

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I use prop baits . These two .

 

 

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Only 2 prop baits I use are the boy howdy and the crazy shad. Last time I tried a new one it was a Kelly jordan prop bait cant remember the name but it sunk. Never bothered to buy anymore

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37 minutes ago, riverbasser said:

Kelly jordan prop bait cant remember the name but it sunk.

So then would that make it  a spy bait ? 😉

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1 hour ago, scaleface said:

So then would that make it  a spy bait ? 😉

Might as well been. if you see a Kelly J custom spy bait on the flea market later dont say nothing

 

Think I paid like 12 bucks for that thing too

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I dont fish topwater much...

but when I do I fish a devil's horse. Have caught more fish topwater on it than any other.

ALMOST won a tournament because of it.

When fishing it, work it SLOW.

Cast out, then let it sit until the ripples are gone . They will sometimes clobber it just letting it sit there. Then , one jerk every now and then . I mainly fish them at night or low light conditions.

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I prefer the H2O Slush Minnow over the Devil's Horse, and their Slush Daddy is great for when they're eating gills.

I love the Yo-zuri 3DB prop. It has a really unique prop look and sound. 

I don't personally consider a Plopper a prop bait because I don't fish it like a prop bait. It's a plopper, a category all it's own like topwater crawlers are in a category all by themselves. 

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I used to fish the Devil's Horse until I got a Boy Howdy.  I missed a lot of strikes on the DH as it sets flat on the water.  The BH is rear heavy and I caught a lot more on them because the hook up rate was higher.

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13 hours ago, scaleface said:

I use prop baits . These two .

 

 

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I love that bottom prop pop R version. Great looking bait. 

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30 minutes ago, Spankey said:

I love that bottom prop pop R version. Great looking bait. 

Thats a Dalton Special . I just acquired that one . 

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I own a few Boy Howdy double prop baits but never throw them...They come with cheap treble hooks, and I often lose confidence in a topwater that needs to be balanced if I have to change treble hooks. For the price, the Devils Horse just gives me more confidence but I feel like I catch alot less fish on line less than 12lb test. That is often a problem over submerged grass, so the Rapala X Rap Prop is my new go to double prop for longer casts, more buoyant line, and it will cast well on casting gear and has a smaller profile. Counter rotating blades also seem to allow it to create a different sound, but at the end of the day...Both are great. I seem to prefer the slimmer profile, I get less strikes on the big Devils horse, but the Rapala is the perfect size imo.

 

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The one prop bait Cordell makes that I used to catch fish on and for some reason never use anymore is the Crazy shad which is a double prop bait in a shad shape. I now use the Torpedo and Tiny Torpedo when I want something smaller since it has strong hooks and casts well on casting gear and I can get away with heavy line.

 

I think all the ones mentioned are good....I also fish alot of Floating Minnow baits over submerged weeds here in Florida, If I have 6"-3' of water, I will often go with the Bagleys Bang O lure single prop Minnow which is a great wake bait, prop bait, or Shallow diving balsa jerkbait that only needs a few inches and is buoyant. If they are not hitting it with the prop, I just remove it and go with the jerkbait since it is buoyant and casts better than a Rapala in same size.

 

I will still take the Bomber Long A over grass as my first Hardbait pretty much all the time, but in the Spring Prop baits seem to work well since they must sound like a bluegill. 

 

I have a double prop bait in my box that was made by Luhr Jensen and is all wood. I forget the name but you can find them on Ebay, for some reason it works really well, has a different lip, kind of has a gliding action with the mouth a similar shape to say the Strike King Walking bait.

 

One of the things I do in grass when fishing a hardbait where everyone else throws flukes etc.. Is go barbless so I can shake off grass and any debris. I feel as long as you do not leave any slack, and keep tension, you land just as many fish. I also do the same when ripping traps out of grass, not having barbs helps keep the lure clean...Just my take...I borrowed that from a guy who is pretty good at the hardbait over submerged grass, I believe it is on the lake you mentioned.

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14 hours ago, primetime said:

I own a few Boy Howdy double prop baits but never throw them...They come with cheap treble hooks, and I often lose confidence in a topwater that needs to be balanced if I have to change treble hooks. For the price, the Devils Horse just gives me more confidence but I feel like I catch alot less fish on line less than 12lb test. That is often a problem over submerged grass, so the Rapala X Rap Prop is my new go to double prop for longer casts, more buoyant line, and it will cast well on casting gear and has a smaller profile. Counter rotating blades also seem to allow it to create a different sound, but at the end of the day...Both are great. I seem to prefer the slimmer profile, I get less strikes on the big Devils horse, but the Rapala is the perfect size imo.

 

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The one prop bait Cordell makes that I used to catch fish on and for some reason never use anymore is the Crazy shad which is a double prop bait in a shad shape. I now use the Torpedo and Tiny Torpedo when I want something smaller since it has strong hooks and casts well on casting gear and I can get away with heavy line.

 

I think all the ones mentioned are good....I also fish alot of Floating Minnow baits over submerged weeds here in Florida, If I have 6"-3' of water, I will often go with the Bagleys Bang O lure single prop Minnow which is a great wake bait, prop bait, or Shallow diving balsa jerkbait that only needs a few inches and is buoyant. If they are not hitting it with the prop, I just remove it and go with the jerkbait since it is buoyant and casts better than a Rapala in same size.

 

I will still take the Bomber Long A over grass as my first Hardbait pretty much all the time, but in the Spring Prop baits seem to work well since they must sound like a bluegill. 

 

I have a double prop bait in my box that was made by Luhr Jensen and is all wood. I forget the name but you can find them on Ebay, for some reason it works really well, has a different lip, kind of has a gliding action with the mouth a similar shape to say the Strike King Walking bait.

 

One of the things I do in grass when fishing a hardbait where everyone else throws flukes etc.. Is go barbless so I can shake off grass and any debris. I feel as long as you do not leave any slack, and keep tension, you land just as many fish. I also do the same when ripping traps out of grass, not having barbs helps keep the lure clean...Just my take...I borrowed that from a guy who is pretty good at the hardbait over submerged grass, I believe it is on the lake you mentioned.

Thanks for the detailed response!

I too use the Long A as my primary hard bait over grass but was considering using a prop as more of a top water search bait with a more subtle action. 

 

I have 3 tournaments on Okeechobee in March.

2 of them have a field of over 100 registered already and from what I'm hearing in certain specific areas it's..let's just say kinda popular. 

 

 

 

 

 

Mike

 

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This is my prop bait of choice right now. River2Sea Lane Changer in Perch pattern. I have also had great success last summer with the classic Heddon Torpedo.
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1 hour ago, Mike L said:

I too use the Long A as my primary hard bait over grass but was considering using a prop as more of a top water search bait with a more subtle action. 

I have a half dozen or so new Bomber Prop A's still in the box and several more in my top water box  They are simply a Long A with a prop  like in the photo above . Other than a  buzzbait they are my premier top-water lure . When I saw them in the clearance bin I snagged a life-time supply . They are deadly post-spawn lures . My biggest six fish limit ever of around thirty lbs was caught with one . I caught 24 keepers over 15 inches that day . A person should be able to add a prop to a Long A to make one . 

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I fish Devil's Horse and some old Heddon Dying Flutters.  I like to use short, fast twitches to get them walk. 

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1 hour ago, scaleface said:

I have a half dozen or so new Bomber Prop A's still in the box and several more in my top water box  They are simply a Long A with a prop  like in the photo above . Other than a  buzzbait they are my premier top-water lure . When I saw them in the clearance bin I snagged a life-time supply . They are deadly post-spawn lures . My biggest six fish limit ever of around thirty lbs was caught with one . I caught 24 keepers over 15 inches that day . A person should be able to add a prop to a Long A to make one . 

Now that's perfect!!

Never even thought about a prop A!

 

You did your good deed for the day. 

 

 

 

 

Mike

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