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When we see CA in the news, it’s either burning from one end to the other, of getting drenching rain and sliding away with the mud. Given the news’s propensity to only show the very worst cases, how bad are things in reality?

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3 hours ago, padlin said:

When we see CA in the news, it’s either burning from one end to the other, of getting drenching rain and sliding away with the mud. Given the news’s propensity to only show the very worst cases, how bad are things in reality?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/extremely-dangerous-storm-dumping-more-165459493.html

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3 hours ago, padlin said:

When we see CA in the news, it’s either burning from one end to the other, of getting drenching rain and sliding away with the mud. Given the news’s propensity to only show the very worst cases, how bad are things in reality?

Haha.  Yea I see the news and I think I’m gonna die.   Thanks for asking bud. 
 

while I feel awful and sympathetic to those that are feeling the full brunt of this storm, it’s just been rain for me. More work due to damage, but at least I’m working.   
 

 

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I should change the title of my thread.  Looks like my local big lake is full.  Could make a big impact on my spring time gasoline bill. I might not have to drive so far to find big waters. :)

 

thanks to Mom Nature.  Such a fickle thing. 

19 hours ago, padlin said:

When we see CA in the news, it’s either burning from one end to the other, of getting drenching rain and sliding away with the mud. Given the news’s propensity to only show the very worst cases, how bad are things in reality?

I remember when the section of bay bridge failed. The headlines was. “Bay Bridge Collapse!”

 

I suppose boring news won’t sell. 

 

 

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On 1/14/2023 at 12:27 AM, Glenn said:

Anyone know if Mead is filling up?  Man it needs it!

Most of the moisture is not reaching that far inland.  It's primarily coastal rain and snow in the Sierra Nevada range.

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On 1/14/2023 at 1:27 AM, Glenn said:

Anyone know if Mead is filling up?  Man it needs it!

I heard it’s up about 1.5 feet from a few months ago. Not too much but on a massive lake I guess that’s a good bit 

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Ya, Mead and Powell are in dire shape. They need a monsoon or two.  It doesn't look like they're getting any help from these storms.

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On 1/14/2023 at 7:35 PM, gulfcaptain said:

Any water filling piru Tom?

 

 

I am not Tom, but I have heard that Piru has come up quite a ways. I can't quote any specific figures.

 

Wouldn't that be nice though to have another viable option like Piru when it has a decent amount of water? IF the restrictions due to mussels aren't terribly restrictive.

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The road to the lake is washed out.

It went from 41000 acre feet to 47000 acre feet since Jan 1st. 82,000 acre feet at full pool.

Tom

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On 1/14/2023 at 12:55 PM, padlin said:

When we see CA in the news, it’s either burning from one end to the other, of getting drenching rain and sliding away with the mud. Given the news’s propensity to only show the very worst cases, how bad are things in reality?

 

California is a big place and in a lot of areas, far from flat. When the Mississippi river or Miami or New Orleans or Houston floods, that's an entirely different scenario. The floods here in California are generally in relatively isolated areas and sometimes affect larger areas when they do damage in a particularly vulnerable location. Looking at the larger picture, floods and fires are mostly minor in comparison to our other issues affecting our quality of life but it's a great way to distract us from solving the issues that affect us in our daily lives. 

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I read yesterday that only about 20% of the total rainfall since Jan 1 has been "captured" there.  The rest has basically washed right into the ocean.

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23 minutes ago, gimruis said:

I read yesterday that only about 20% of the total rainfall since Jan 1 has been "captured" there.  The rest has basically washed right into the ocean.

The salmon, steelhead, sturgeon, striped bass and American shad all need to get to the rivers from the ocean. But it’s definitely a talking point of Big Ag in the San Joaquin valley in conjunction with SoCal development.

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3 hours ago, gimruis said:

I read yesterday that only about 20% of the total rainfall since Jan 1 has been "captured" there.  The rest has basically washed right into the ocean.

This is one touchy, sensitive and delicate subject out here. LOL We try to avoid this topic. LOL 

 

3 hours ago, J._Bricker said:

The salmon, steelhead, sturgeon, striped bass and American shad all need to get to the rivers from the ocean. But it’s definitely a talking point of Big Ag in the San Joaquin valley in conjunction with SoCal development.

Interesting enough, the central, north and south SJ valley have the big Ag. I heard the yacht guys have the Delta. Delta ag is weak compared to the rest. But again, we don't talk about it. LOL 

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Amazing we have 1 rainy season and the wheels fall off.

Flood control is a major issue for the past 150 years, nothing been built the last 50 years and the+population has doubled during that time. Why?......environmental impact, the crazy’s are running the asylum.

Tom 

 

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29 minutes ago, WRB said:

and the+population has doubled during that time.

 

Not to worry Tom.  I understand people are leaving CA in droves.

 

AZ isn't very happy about it either. LOL  

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4 hours ago, Caliyak said:

This is one touchy, sensitive and delicate subject out here. LOL We try to avoid this topic. LOL 

 

Interesting enough, the central, north and south SJ valley have the big Ag. I heard the yacht guys have the Delta. Delta ag is weak compared to the rest. But again, we don't talk about it. LOL 

And we know the South San Joaquin Ag is really stumping for those Wonderful folks in Beverly Hills ?

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15 hours ago, Glenn said:

 

Not to worry Tom.  I understand people are leaving CA in droves.

 

AZ isn't very happy about it either. LOL  

You are right but look who is replacing the productive folks!

I am glad I am old and own my property.

Being a native Californian I’ve seen all the water projects and reservoirs being constructed and political fighting as a result. SoCal is a desert without water with 30 million people dependent on imported water. 

Arizona in the dry environment as is Nevada. 

The climate hasn’t changed the number of defendant people has!

The major water projects that created SoCal and Arizona are the Boulder All American Canal in 1949, The Feather River project in 1969 and Mulholland Owens River project in 1909. Without those water supplies we would be undeveloped.

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48 minutes ago, WRB said:

The climate hasn’t changed the number of defendant people has!

Yeah, listened to pretty smart weather guy on PBS today and showed a chart that has shown how the more west you move across the U.S, the less predictable rainfall is and will differ dramatically from year to year and always has. I have family that works with a local water municipality, and all the regulations in lake building, dam repair, and licensing really demoralizes the reservoirs to be repaired or built so they just lower the water below where dam damage is and flood the extra water out to the ocean. Nobody wants to deal with the valves, dam repair or work, or even  the simple light switch electrical work on the dam lakes because there is so much red tape, paperwork, etc. Even spraying invasive weeds with pesticides requires a month of paperwork to make sure it doesn't contaminate the water even though the weeds grow on the complete other side of the dam 100 yards away. It's easy for the municipalities to just abandon the dam all together and let the lake turn into a puddle.  Not to mention walking riprap to spray it is a invitation for a snake bite or broken leg.

 

P.S (watch easier when the engineer corps did the work...)

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7 minutes ago, PressuredFishing said:

Yeah, listened to pretty smart weather guy on PBS today and showed a chart that has shown how the more west you move across the U.S, the less predictable rainfall is and will differ dramatically from year to year and always has.

 

Yup, last year we had month after month of breaking rainfall records, floods, mudslides, and snowfall.  And the year before that was bad too.  And now you're getting the firehose.

 

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12 hours ago, Glenn said:

 

Not to worry Tom.  I understand people are leaving CA in droves.

 

AZ isn't very happy about it either. LOL  

Glenn, but if you look at the numbers, we are taking in the other 48 states' unwanted. Last numbers I saw, we lose 900K but 300K are moving in. Here is my proof, they did a study of the homelessness, the majority of the California homeless were from out of state. 

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On 1/20/2023 at 8:09 AM, Caliyak said:

Glenn, but if you look at the numbers, we are taking in the other 48 states' unwanted. Last numbers I saw, we lose 900K but 300K are moving in. Here is my proof, they did a study of the homelessness, the majority of the California homeless were from out of state. 

my wife has interviewed them.  they tell her other states buy them bus tickets.  hahahah..

 

it is quite easy for another state to bash our problem, but dang it.  sucks that some are sent here.

 

but about the water.  CA has a reservoir in every watershed in the State.  since the 1960.  one of the earliest water programs ever SWP?  state water program, I think it was called.  part of the program that created the California Aquaduct.  I talked to a few army corp guys and they are revamping how they discharge water.  they used to dump it per a calendar date.  now they are experimenting with a data point with water level.   they have to let water out in anticipation of rains and spring melt.  buy some headspace, so to speak.  the changing weather is making the pencil pushers rethink strategy. 

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