What’s everyone’s thoughts on this rabbit hole? 
 

They are incorporating it in a sense where I work. A few of us see it and completely disregard it and kinda brag about being better. 
 
They call it optimization at work and vary our start times to it since a computer tells them it’s best to start routes at X time and follow in a certain order to avoid traffic patterns and busy times. 
 

There’s days I crush time and mileage doing it in my own order that makes sense to me basically eliminating left hand turns when I can. Then other days I meet the time it says usually when stops push me to the 10 min limit they get or I say screw that limit I’ve got time and sit and wait for them to get their shipment ready. 
 

Then there’s the whole AI aspect in investing, selling, warfare etc. I just know at work they are trying hard to incorporate a computer program telling them the best times to start us and where to go at what time and order. Some guys follow it to a T and they are always the last ones in or run into issues on the road. 

 

You will all be going to...............Part time hours.  Very obvious logic.

29 minutes ago, clayton86 said:

What’s everyone’s thoughts on this rabbit hole? 
 

They are incorporating it in a sense where I work. A few of us see it and completely disregard it and kinda brag about being better. 
 
They call it optimization at work and vary our start times to it since a computer tells them it’s best to start routes at X time and follow in a certain order to avoid traffic patterns and busy times. 
 

There’s days I crush time and mileage doing it in my own order that makes sense to me basically eliminating left hand turns when I can. Then other days I meet the time it says usually when stops push me to the 10 min limit they get or I say screw that limit I’ve got time and sit and wait for them to get their shipment ready. 
 

Then there’s the whole AI aspect in investing, selling, warfare etc. I just know at work they are trying hard to incorporate a computer program telling them the best times to start us and where to go at what time and order. Some guys follow it to a T and they are always the last ones in or run into issues on the road. 

 

Funny you mention this. After the UPS contract renewal, my UPS guy lost his route. AI plots their routes now and, rather than having a single UPS driver, I get 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 drivers a week based on AI. AI determines what route the packages get loaded on. I don't know if this is working for UPS. The drivers are complaining AND, I can no longer tell my driver "Can you come by early tomorrow, my customer needs this part asap.

Get rid of ALL people !!  Screw the people without good enough jobs to buy our products.

11 minutes ago, slonezp said:

Funny you mention this. After the UPS contract renewal, my UPS guy lost his route. AI plots their routes now and, rather than having a single UPS driver, I get 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 drivers a week based on AI. AI determines what route the packages get loaded on. I don't know if this is working for UPS. The drivers are complaining AND, I can no longer tell my driver "Can you come by early tomorrow, my customer needs this part asap.

 Kinda how it is with us. There’s days we leapfrog down the road. Friday actually was with another driver. Mostly because I wasn’t following the order it said he does. I was doing some of what it said to do last first. I was doing a few ATMs before they got busy on a Friday. I don’t get how a computer doesn’t see that when it tries to supposedly get us to spots when they aren’t busy. I was doing ATMs as it had him doing commercial stops all around me gas stations, Home Depot, Lowe’s, town hall collecting taxes. 
 

In one aspect it made sense when it had me doing the atm at the bank later in the day when the bank opened since BOA doesn’t open till 10am and closes at 4pm even on Fridays. I always knock out the ATM first thing I do in the morning that way when doing the branch it’s just one quick in and out when people are there. 

The only advantage the computer has, is the GPS. It knows if there's a traffic accident or whatnot going on. It cannot take into account every day delays or occurrence's and common sense. Logic requires reason. AI cannot reason.

As a person that ran a route for 17+ yrs, I know a better path than the computer every time. 
 

granted, not everyone knows every goat trail like me 

 

could be helpful at times, harmful at others for driving routes 

 

One of my new jobs has AI everywhere but they still pay me so I’ll ride it out 

Remember this fact about ...ALL....computer data and outputs from one of them. Their ...appearent logic... is really a combination of all the data put into their ...BRAIN  ?  ...  Any bad or incomplete instructions ??

Dangerous crap outputs.    It will always be subject to doing a crap job.  

Ya put sh** in, you will get **it out!

Be very careful not to throw the baby out with the bath water. AI is not a hammer with everything being a nail. Highly successful AI is a tool used in conjunction with a human’s vocation. The pairing of a human with an AI algorithm many times show better results than an AI algorithm alone or a human alone. A good example is the use of AI in reading mammograms to not only find cancer but predict the risk a woman has to getting cancer in the future. No one is replacing the radiologist … the AI algorithm is a tool used by the radiologist to better do their job. It’s also been found the AI algorithm can identify issues in segments of the population that a radiologist may have limited experience, such as Black women. So now medical diagnosis becomes an even playing field (something medical professionals in certain portions of the world struggle with).
 

This is work that started at MIT if you’re interested in reading more. AI work like this is game changing!

2 hours ago, TLHSS said:

No one is replacing the radiologist … the AI algorithm is a tool used by the radiologist to better do their job.

Yep, in my workplace, they're training all of us on it, including ethics.  I've discovered it greatly increases productivity and reduces mistakes in my own work.

 

What I've heard over and over is this: AI isn't replacing people and jobs, but people that use AI will replace those that don't.

 

AI will generate an output with the knowledge it has at that particular time, but sh** happens unexpectedly that it can't take into consideration. AI should just be regarded as guidance.

I think AI will change the world more than any previous invention.  It could kill us all but I’m not worried about that yet.  I’m a retired software developer so I’m no longer coding professionally but I still do it for fun.  AI easily doubles my productivity.  I really wonder how it will affect young software developers.  There’s so much that I had to learn that they will never have to know.  Does AI make mistakes?  Yes but people have also been known to make mistakes .  Could it take away all the jobs?  Possibly, if it does the world will look very different and probably a lot better than it looks now.
 

It will be interesting and a little scary to watch it all unfold.  We are in the very early stages of the AI revolution.

I’m not sure what the heck y’all are talking about, but whatever it is, I hope my work doesn’t start using it…

 

Every time anyone brings this up I think about the movie Terminator. 

34 minutes ago, Skunkmaster-k said:

Every time anyone brings this up I think about the movie Terminator. 

Man I hope not 😳

I hope I am dead.  When ROBO cop arrives at something.  He is not programed for.

9 minutes ago, cyclops2 said:

I hope I am dead.  When ROBO cop arrives at something.  He is not programed for.

I thought someone said YOU were AI - 

Or at least the A part . . .

A-Jay

2 hours ago, Skunkmaster-k said:

Every time anyone brings this up I think about the movie Terminator. 

Glad I wasn’t the only one.

 

Skynet is the artificial intelligence of “the machines” that take over. We need a leader to rise up and lead the resistance. I nominate you, skunky.

 

On 2/17/2024 at 7:58 PM, slonezp said:

AI cannot reason.

Sure it can, if you give it the proper parameters to work with. 
 

AI is far far smarter and far far more dangerous than we realize. About 90% of our lives is run by computer algorithms already, and this technology is still in its infancy stage. 

In the past, humans did the work and used computers as necessary. We’re seeing that change. Now the computers do the work and use humans as necessary.
 

Sobering, when you recognize that we rely on computers for our food, electricity, propane, healthcare, gasoline, etc….

18 minutes ago, JackstrawIII said:

Sure it can, if you give it the proper parameters to work with. 
 

AI is far far smarter and far far more dangerous than we realize. About 90% of our lives is run by computer algorithms already, and this technology is still in its infancy stage. 

In the past, humans did the work and used computers as necessary. We’re seeing that change. Now the computers do the work and use humans as necessary.
 

Sobering, when you recognize that we rely on computers for our food, electricity, propane, healthcare, gasoline, etc….

Elon Musk would agree with you.

29 minutes ago, greentrout said:

Elon Musk would agree with you.

When the smartest guy around (Elon) thinks you're making a mistake... you should listen. 

How is he doing as a father ?

Terribly    Read  all the problems he is causing with their lives.

We will be fine in these hollers, just recently got electricity! Did fine without it