Ohioguy25 Posted November 6, 2024 Posted November 6, 2024 This is a strange phenomenon I’ve observed, especially in certain types of anglers. This one friend of mine thinks there are all of these hard and fast rules with zero exceptions, some science based or at least logical sounding and some just nonsensical. I should mention this is regarding river smallmouth, I’m sure he has an entirely separate playbook for their lake dwelling cousins. Some examples, ranging from sensible to just plain moronic: - Never retrieve upstream, baitfish only swim downstream - Never throw moving baits after spawn until the fall bite - Never use snaps or snap swivels, fish can see these and you’ll lose bites - Absolutely NO mono except for topwater, bass are incredibly line shy and you must use fluorocarbon which is invisible - Smallmouth prefer sun and will bite better when it is sunny. The only reason bluebird negatively impacts fishing is due to barometric pressure, absolutely nothing to do with being ambush predators who prefer shade and cover. - ALWAYS match the hatch, especially when it comes to size and color. This would suggest that every strike is an actively feeding fish rather than reactionary, which we all know the inverse is usually true. There are several others that aren’t coming to mind but you get the idea. Do you think there is much if any legitimacy to any of these ideas? I can get behind bits and pieces of them but as a whole I think smallmouth are reactionary and nomadic (within the section of river they live) enough that timing and luck play as pivotal a role as anything. You can study and learn their behavior and habits obsessively and enjoy great success from the advantages this gives you, but at the end of the day I don’t believe bass are quite as predictable as some think. Quote
Super User bowhunter63 Posted November 6, 2024 Super User Posted November 6, 2024 I keep an open mind because they wander around and if there hungry or you can make her mad she is gonna eat . But you can’t catch them from home. That I do know 2 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted November 6, 2024 Super User Posted November 6, 2024 Do you know any fishermen who have strict rules ? Yes ~ Me. But I have just ONE rule. Location, Timing, Presentation and Persistence Matter. That is All. A-Jay 2 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted November 6, 2024 Super User Posted November 6, 2024 You need some new friends. 1 1 Quote
Ohioguy25 Posted November 6, 2024 Author Posted November 6, 2024 15 minutes ago, Dwight Hottle said: You need some new friends. The vast majority of the company I keep does not adhere to this nonsense. I usually fish alone anyway. 1 Quote
Ohioguy25 Posted November 6, 2024 Author Posted November 6, 2024 19 minutes ago, Rockhopper said: White spinnerbait 24/7 Lol what Quote
Rockhopper Posted November 6, 2024 Posted November 6, 2024 3 minutes ago, Ohioguy25 said: Lol what It's a strict rule. Look it up. 1 Quote
Super User Tennessee Boy Posted November 6, 2024 Super User Posted November 6, 2024 A typical day on bassresource.com. 3 1 Quote
Ohioguy25 Posted November 6, 2024 Author Posted November 6, 2024 30 minutes ago, Rockhopper said: It's a strict rule. Look it up. I like mouse rat + Clearwater Shad for these conditions, painted chartreuse in the spring when it’s up and muddy. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 6, 2024 Super User Posted November 6, 2024 Is your know it all friend looking back at you in the mirror😎. Smallmouth like all bass live in the water. Can’t catch a bass with the lure in the tackle box. Reopen this thread when it’s snowing and you can walk on the water. Tom 1 Quote
Ohioguy25 Posted November 6, 2024 Author Posted November 6, 2024 1 hour ago, WRB said: Is your know it all friend looking back at you in the mirror😎. Smallmouth like all bass live in the water. Can’t catch a bass with the lure in the tackle box. Reopen this thread when it’s snowing and you can walk on the water. Tom Lol when I have ever given you the impression I adhere to silly rules? Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted November 7, 2024 Global Moderator Posted November 7, 2024 Baitfish only swim downstream? They’d all be in the ocean by now or stuck with their nose in a dam 3 4 Quote
Reel Posted November 7, 2024 Posted November 7, 2024 I went fishing for smallmouth today and broke all these rules. I still managed to catch a good quantity of fish and some nice ones. Rules are made to be broken. 2 Quote
PaulVE64 Posted November 7, 2024 Posted November 7, 2024 1 hour ago, TnRiver46 said: Baitfish only swim downstream? They’d all be in the ocean by now or stuck with their nose in a dam Thanks, ive always thought that too 1 Quote
Susky River Rat Posted November 7, 2024 Posted November 7, 2024 The catfish, musky, snakehead ate them all. The won’t be shallow in winter The flood water pushed them all down stream 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted November 7, 2024 Global Moderator Posted November 7, 2024 I see shad swimming upstream mostly, especially at dams and up creeks . And then They’ll swim 360 degrees to avoid a smallmouth haha 1 Quote
Super User Swamp Girl Posted November 7, 2024 Super User Posted November 7, 2024 Those are pretty good guidelines, but I have caught thousands of smallmouth with mono. Quote
Super User GaryH Posted November 7, 2024 Super User Posted November 7, 2024 There’s one steadfast rule that has always proving to be 100% right for me. No matter what type of line, what color lure, sunny or cloudy, water temp matter at all, If I don’t get my butt off the couch and hit the water I get skunked. 1 Quote
Buzzbaiter Posted November 7, 2024 Posted November 7, 2024 Going down that list: Disagree; wrong; “never” is a hard word but I do agree; disagree; maybe; wrong. I’m typically against this placing hard rules in animal behavior. I’m all for general guidelines, but “never” and “always” don’t exist for wild animals, at least when it comes to behavior. 2 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted November 7, 2024 Global Moderator Posted November 7, 2024 Oh yeah, we use mono for 99% of all SMB fishing and they bite 3 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted November 7, 2024 Super User Posted November 7, 2024 56 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: Oh yeah, we use mono for 99% of all SMB fishing and they bite I have caught over 100 smallies six lbs & bigger on mono leaders attached to braid and three over seven lbs so my success dispels the mono versus flourocarbon myth. None of those were on topwater baits. 4 Quote
Ohioguy25 Posted November 7, 2024 Author Posted November 7, 2024 8 hours ago, Dwight Hottle said: I have caught over 100 smallies six lbs & bigger on mono leaders attached to braid and three over seven lbs so my success dispels the mono versus flourocarbon myth. None of those were on topwater baits. Lake or river? What state? Quote
Super User islandbass Posted November 8, 2024 Super User Posted November 8, 2024 If that is what they believe and they don’t impose it on you, then I’m fine. And you’re right. Some of it borders moronic, lol, particularly the “nevers”. Never say never, 😂 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted November 8, 2024 Global Moderator Posted November 8, 2024 14 hours ago, Ohioguy25 said: Lake or river? What state? Lake Erie, OH with a little PA mixed in 2 Quote
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