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  • After considerable consideration, I have decided against buying and using line conditioner. It would be just one more thing to do and I already cast accurately and have enough to do the evenings befor

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    I do a good soak when I first spool up, then a few spritzes the night before a trip.

  • After 21 days of 1.75 oz shots you'll crave it and you clothes will slide ride off you body. Don't ask me how I know. Their Not for Human Consumption is just to CYA.😁

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KVD for years. 
Including on heavier braids (#50, #60 and #80)

 

I also use it on all skirts. 
I helps to keep them pliable and separated   
 

 

 

 

 

Mike

Ordered a bottle of the KVD stuff thanks to all the advice here. Guess I'll see what I've been missing. Found an old *** article about it and the author claimed 20% increase in casting distance... wouldn't that be great. 

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1 minute ago, JHoss said:

Ordered a bottle of the KVD stuff thanks to all the advice here. Guess I'll see what I've been missing. Found an old *** article about it and the author claimed 20% increase in casting distance... wouldn't that be great. 

 

I might buy a bottle too and give fluoro another try. I'll spray it on my mono too. I feel like a kid who discovers pizza at the age of 16. 

 

And all the other kids are saying, "You've never eaten pizza? Not once? You have missed the train, girl!"

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I use KVD on all my baitcasters with mono or hybrid. As mentioned in another thread 😆 I rig my rods the night before a trip, and I spray each spool. I release the spool and let a little line out and make sure I spray the spool 360°. 
 

Does it make a difference? Compared to the past before I used it, I’d say so. It seems to keep the line more supple. 

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15 hours ago, Swamp Girl said:

 

I might buy a bottle too and give fluoro another try. I'll spray it on my mono too. I feel like a kid who discovers pizza at the age of 16. 

 

And all the other kids are saying, "You've never eaten pizza? Not once? You have missed the train, girl!"

Word of warning. Pizza tastes better than KVD line conditioner. Don't ask me how I know. 

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1 hour ago, NorthernBasser said:

Word of warning. Pizza tastes better than KVD line conditioner. Don't ask me how I know. 

After 21 days of 1.75 oz shots you'll crave it and you clothes will slide ride off you body. Don't ask me how I know.

Their Not for Human Consumption is just to CYA.😁

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On 4/1/2025 at 8:58 AM, Mike L said:

KVD for years. 
Including on heavier braids (#50, #60 and #80)

 

I also use it on all skirts. 
I helps to keep them pliable and separated   
 

 

 

 

 

Mike

What’s the benefits on braid?    I used a line conditioner on braid one time (bottle said it was ok for braid).  I think it was ardent line butter or something and it separated all the strands and pretty much ate up the braid so I’ve never tried line conditioner on a braid again.   I threw out the bottle right away and never again.    Now I use Reel Snot or KVD.   Whatever I can get ahold of.

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I only use it on those heavier lines (only time I use braid) which are all Original Power Pro 

It helps with casting distance on the #50 which is only for frogs (recently changed to Smackdown) 

 

I use it on the 2 others (which are solely for flipping and pitching) as it helps the line come off much smoother which gives me an extra few feet when pitching. 
 

A very minor benefit is it helps retain the lines color 

 

 

 

 

 

Mike
 

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I use KVD line conditioner. I change my fluorocarbon every three years or so, when it gets low and mono once or twice a year it keeps my line behaving well and is quite effective.

 

I’ve never tried it on braid.

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19 minutes ago, Boomstick said:

I use KVD line conditioner. I change my fluorocarbon every three years or so, when it gets low and mono once or twice a year it keeps my line behaving well and is quite effective.

 

I’ve never tried it on braid.


 

It does help when you get up in the higher strengths especially with the 4 carrier original Power Pro I use. 

Not so much on the lower end with an 8 carrier 

 


 

 

 

Mike

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Mono is nylon and hygroscopic meaning it absorbs line conditioner reducing memory.

Fluorocarbon line isn’t hygroscopic and sheds water and line conditioners. KVD micro coats a thin film on the FC line allowing it to absorb the coating to reduce memory. 
Tangle Free is a wetting coating that reduces memory for Mono/Copoly line and wets FC, but washes off in a few hours. I simple reapply TangFree as needed.

Fins braid has polyurethane coated fibers to eliminate color fade and self lubricates.

Tom

On 4/1/2025 at 7:34 AM, greentrout said:

KVD on mono and braid. For a long time ...

How does it help when using braid? I have never through to try it. 

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A friend uses Silicone spray on braid claiming it works good…..?

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3 minutes ago, WRB said:

A friend uses Silicone spray on braid claiming it works good…..?

Tom

I guess that would make it come of the spool easier and come through the guides better. I just never thought it was necessary. Definitely worth trying out. 

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On 4/3/2025 at 6:14 PM, Mike L said:


 

It does help when you get up in the higher strengths especially with the 4 carrier original Power Pro I use. 

Not so much on the lower end with an 8 carrier 

 


 

 

 

Mike

I’ll try it on my fatter braid. You definitely use high pound braid more than I do being in Florida.

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24 minutes ago, Boomstick said:

I’ll try it on my fatter braid. You definitely use high pound braid more than I do being in Florida.


Dean

It does help on the higher end of the 4 carrier I use. 
 

I use 80# when punching though the heaviest and thickest of cover. 
It’s proven to be the best option for me in especially blooming Hyacinth in the summer and through the thickest Hydrilla mats we see. 

Most of the time I use the 60# or 20# Shooter

 

 


 

Mike

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How are you all applying the spray, directly to reel? No worries about it getting inside? 

 

The noname brand of KVD is silicone spray, and the water based spray is what off label non fishing brand?

 

This thread got me reel curious to try some on my Big Game and Yozuri hybrid 

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On 4/1/2025 at 8:58 AM, Mike L said:

I also use it on all skirts.

 

I never thought of this.  I'll give it a go, thanks.

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7 hours ago, Banned User said:

How are you all applying the spray, directly to reel? No worries about it getting inside? 

 

The noname brand of KVD is silicone spray, and the water based spray is what off label non fishing brand?

 

This thread got me reel curious to try some on my Big Game and Yozuri hybrid 


I apply it during spooling and the night before every trip. 

 

No, I don’t care if it’s gets inside somehow as I’m spraying. 
 

I use the KVD Line and Lure only, don’t know and don’t care about any knockoff or other products. 

 

Tip…

Be sure to let it dry completely before getting it wet. 
 

 


 

Mike

I put Reelsnot on mono and fluoro while spooling up, and keep a bottle on the deck for tying knots. I haven’t noticed any magical increase in casting distance, but it does make a difference in memory and longevity.

Playing devil's advocate here...

 

As I read this and see big bottles of chemicals, I am wondering about its effect on the water and environment? Are line conditioners safe for the environment and us?

 

I'm searching for the product materials data safety report now on KVD's website and can't locate it. Does anyone have any copies of any product safety reports on line conditioners?

 

Already found this:

 

 

PLEASE NOTE: Clothing containing PFAS can no longer be shipped to CA or NY.

Prop 65 Warning WARNING: Cancer and Reproductive Harm www.P65Warnings.ca.gov.
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8 hours ago, Banned User said:

How are you all applying the spray, directly to reel? No worries about it getting inside? 

 

The noname brand of KVD is silicone spray, and the water based spray is what off label non fishing brand?

 

This thread got me reel curious to try some on my Big Game and Yozuri hybrid 

I highly recommend KVD L&L for YZH.   I use it on all fluoro, copoly and mono, but YZH gets the most noticeable benefit.

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