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Is there anything "wrong" with just your standard monofilament companies that you see?  Like are they considered poorer quality or anything?  Talking Stren, Suffix, Trilene, etc. 

Can fish se the hi-vis and clear?  Or should you go with the low-vis stuff?

Does anyone make black monofilament?

 

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I use mono or copolymer for a lot of my fishing. I like Berkley Big Game and Pline C21. Stren is my line of choice if I can't find either of those two, especially if I can find Stren Hi Impact. 

Fish can probably see all of them, whether or not that matters depends on the day and the mood they're in.

Cabela's use to make a "coffee" color that was almost black. I don't think I've seen a black mono though. Seaguar Flipping braid is black, that's the only black line I can think of. 

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I use Suffix mono. I like the Suffix siege. Use any kind you like. Don't let anyone tell you that you shouldn't use mono. I don't know about black, Ive never seen it. I fish clear waters so I like the lowest vis possible

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I use mono on my topwater and my crankbait. It still has a place in bass fishing.

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No, nothing at all "wrong" with mono. I fished with nothing but Stren or Big Game for a few decades and it served me just fine. Nowadays I use braid on some of my setups, fc on some, copoly on some, and mono on others. That's just personal preference based on what I like for different techniques, but you can certainly use mono on everything.

One could even argue that it's the best all-purpose line available. If I were only allowed one type of line (without the benefit of leaders) for the rest of my life, I would choose mono and it would be an easy decision. 

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If you want black line, it's always an option to color that last few feet with a Sharpie marker. I do that all the time with braided line.

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Berkley Trilene XL and Big Game are the only mono I use. Both are excellent lines. 

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As far as visibility is concerned, when in open water I think how you are positioned in relation to the sun makes a bigger difference in terms of the fish seeing the line.  For instance, if the sun is behind you and the fish in front of you - and you cast beyond the fish and the sun is shining on the side of the line in the view of the fish it's pretty visible.  If you can try to position so the shadow side of the line is what the fish see then it's less of an issue.  

If in and around cover or shaded areas I think line color makes much less of a difference.  

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What do you mean by monofilament line ? FC, Nylon & Copoly are all monofilament.

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1 hour ago, Raul said:

What do you mean by monofilament line ? FC, Nylon & Copoly are all monofilament.

Technically correct, but I think fishermen divide lines into categories in what might be "fishing nomenclature"

Monofilament = nylon

Fluorocarbon: A blend of fluorocarbon crystals and resins

Copolymer:  A blend of two or more materials, i.e. nylon and fluorocarbon

Braid: "String" regardless of the material or weave

 

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berkley big game is tried and true, can't go wrong there....  i also picked up some sufix siege here lately and the stuff casts like a dream and seems pretty strong for the lb test rating.  

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1 hour ago, roadwarrior said:

Technically correct, but I think fishermen divide lines into categories in what might be "fishing nomenclature"

Monofilament = nylon

Fluorocarbon: A blend of fluorocarbon crystals and resins

Copolymer:  A blend of two or more materials, i.e. nylon and fluorocarbon

Braid: "String" regardless of the material or weave

 

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So fishermen are still living in the dark ages when the only monofilament available for fishing was nylon, geez, that´s sad.

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mono works for everything and is good line despite what the elitists say. and who cares about the fish seeing line, ive sat there and watched bluegill pick at and attack FC line which is supposed to be less visible underwater, yet they never attacked my mono line...

 

1 hour ago, Raul said:

So fishermen are still living in the dark ages when the only monofilament available for fishing was nylon, geez, that´s sad.

im sure its more that people are simplifying things, youre just making it more difficult. if the OP were talking about FC or copoly they wouldve used one of those terms...

 

 

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1 hour ago, Red Bear said:

mono works for everything and is good line despite what the elitists say. and who cares about the fish seeing line, ive sat there and watched bluegill pick at and attack FC line which is supposed to be less visible underwater, yet they never attacked my mono line...

 

im sure its more that people are simplifying things, youre just making it more difficult. if the OP were talking about FC or copoly they wouldve used one of those terms...

 

 

Must be really hard to say Nylon..... oh yes, you have to spell/pronounce one more letter,

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1 hour ago, Raul said:

Must be really hard to say Nylon..... oh yes, you have to spell/pronounce one more letter,

technically youre right, but dont pretend you didnt know what the OP was talking about. no one says nylon when asked what kind of line they have, its always been mono...

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All my reels are right now set up with mono . 17 lb trilene xl clear blue fluorescent on my worm rod. The others have either clear  xl or  green Big Game on .

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I use Trilene XL on my crankbait/top water (besides frogs) rod. Everything else is braid. My finesse setup I put a floro leader but the mainline is still braid.

For me personally, it's castability. I think braid casts far easier on a baitcaster in my experience, and when I do backlash, I find that it's easier to pick out the loops. I also don't worry about the braid being kinked on a backlash like I do with mono.

LC

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i used Trilene XL for many years. Super Silver Thread before that.

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Nothing "wrong" with mono, co-polymer, hybrid or whatever name you want to call it by.  I used Trilene XL for a long time.  I still use some, but wanted to try some different brands.  I like Sufix Siege and Elite, Big Game, Sunline Super Natural, Spiderwire Ultracast Ultimate Mono, Silver Thread AN40 and Izorline XXX.  Haven't tried McCoy yet, but it gets excellent reviews.  Also have CXX, CX and C21 to try.  A friend used 15# CXX on every casting reel at one time.  Don't know about now.

A bad mono would require some searching for.  I've got Shakespeare Red Cast on a couple reels and have no complaints with it.  I imagine its abrasion resistance isn't the best considering how manageable it is.  Have 17# Tuf-Line on a 5001C.  Heck, I picked up a 440 yard spool of 10# Triple Fish RX co-polymer at Ollies for $4.  Heard of Triple Fish, but not RX co-polymer.

You probably can guess that the majority of my reels have some form of mono or co-polymer on them.

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On ‎5‎/‎10‎/‎2016 at 9:25 PM, TedderX said:

Is there anything "wrong" with just your standard monofilament companies that you see?  Like are they considered poorer quality or anything?  Talking Stren, Suffix, Trilene, etc. 

 

 

No, double no. The numbers would be staggering if we knew how many bass were caught on Stren & Berkley Trilene mono. Staggering...

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I still fish about 60% mono. I like Original Stren in either Clear Blue or Low Vis Green. It's tough and the memory is manageable with some KVD Line and Lure.

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From our own ranks

 

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I have yet to find a better mono line than stren for any of my freshwater fishing, I use berkley big game for saltwater, and did eventually transition 12 and 15 lb big game, into bass fishing a few years ago for flipping and frog type fishing. Not that im against any other brands or even braids, just that ive been using mono for so long im used to it, and acclimated certain pd. tests for certain lures and presentations. It's tough to let go of what works for you.

 I have recently been "tinkering" with braid for my flipping and frog fishing. (on a old rod reel combo) But I'm in no hurry, nor am i fishing any tourneys as of right now to commit to it.

but, to answer your questions,

 No problems with either stren or trilene, whether fish see them or not, Im not sure, but even if they do? mono still works,.. Black mono? not that i've ever seen

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1 hour ago, lou304 said:

 

From our own ranks

 

Don't know how I missed this thread, but I thank you for posting the link.  Long, but a good read.  Some of its points were brought out in the TT fluorocarbon tests...such as stretch and knot strength.  I've already proved to myself how bad it is when you have to break the line from a snag.  Had to cut several more feet off.  Makes me feel much better that I prefer mono/co-polymer lines.  Also proved that I need to buy some Yo-Zuri Hybrid line.  :lol:

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Technically mono means single so monofilament means single filament. The first monofilament line was made from Nylon polymer and that term in fishing has become monofilament.

Copolymer means 2 polymers, in fishing line it's usually a blend of 2 Nylons.

Hybrid line is a coextrusion of Nylon core with fluorocarbon PVFD jacket.

FC is usually 100% fluorocarbon PVFD.

The problem with fishing terms is they have different interpretations regionally.

Tom

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