I use the Palomar with nylon but Double Pitzen with Fluoro because I have been using mostly braid to leader. If tying strait braid to the lure, is the standard Palomar good for that or should I use the Double Palomar to keep it from slipping? Was the Palomar designed for braid or was it around before braid was popular?

I use the Pitzen knot for mono, fluorocarbon, and braid.  I have never had a knot problem.  I don’t even know how to tie a double Pitzen.

I don't often run straight braid to a lure, but when I have the palomar has worked great.

The palomar knot has been around for a long time preceding braids popularity. I always use it for braid connecting knots without any failures. I do not use the double palomar knot. 

I use a palomar for all lines tied directly to my lure. It works and I can’t think of a reason to change.

I use the standard, regular, normal palomar fir all braid knots except for punching or in heavy cover which I snell

 

 

 

 

Mike

I used a triple palomar years ago chunking for big stripers.  I dont bait fish much anymore and when I do I use a standard palomar on terminal tackle and have put it to the test, without any failures.  Really in the end it comes down if you are tying the knot correctly and the confidence you have in the knot.  

46 minutes ago, NavyToad said:

I use a palomar for all lines tied directly to my lure. It works and I can’t think of a reason to change.

 

I hate wasting the long tag end when I have to take a palomar around a bigger bait.  Also more line to manage during tying when a trilene knot works just the same.

 

49 minutes ago, Dwight Hottle said:

The palomar knot has been around for a long time preceding braids popularity. I always use it for braid connecting knots without any failures. I do not use the double palomar knot. 

 

Same for me.

When I used the Palomar more frequently I’d go around the hook eye twice on straight braid to put more friction in the system.  Not positive it was necessary but was easy enough and never failed. Currently, I prefer San Diego jam for terminal knots. 
 

scott

10 minutes ago, casts_by_fly said:

I hate wasting the long tag end when I have to take a palomar around a bigger bait. 

Same here. I use an eight-turn improved clinch with a short tag to avoid waste. Grab the tag with a smooth-jaw needlenose plier, then ride the coils down with my thumbnail as I pull. Zero issues ever.

I learn to tie what today is called a Palomar* knot around 1955 by Red the manager of Please Point Boat Landing,Big Bear Lake. Red called it the Indian knot.

Tom

*Named after a fireman who tied this knot at Fred Hull fishing show winning Strens strongest knot contest in the 70’s.

A palomar knot is the only knot I use for braid to lure. I’ve never had one slip or heard of anyone having one slip. 

There's literally dozens (or more) knots that work well.   However, none of them work if you get sloppy.  (and yes I get sloppy every now and then)   I've never used flurocarbon so I can't speak for it and knot strength.  With the mono and braid I've used a palomar knot, tied correctly.....not sloppy won't fail.  The problem with this is if you end up snagged and have to break off there's no telling where the line will break.  You may lose half a spool if you're snagged deep (or high in a tree LOL).   An improved clinch knot, or trilene knot tied correctly will break at the knot, at ~90% of the force required to break the line with a palomar.  

 

Use whatever knot your comfortable with and can tie well.  I also recommend everyone does what I've done.  Tie off to a scale with memory and see what it takes to break different lines and knots.   I've got a tube scale with an o-ring on it that I use for knot/line testing.   My test aren't exactly scientific, but they do give me information I can use.  

Palomar is the only knot I've used with braid and can't recall it ever slipping.

Another vote for using palomar with straight braid no problems 

Standard palomar works great for most things. Snell for straight shanks, and a twice through the eye 10 wrap uni for A-Rigs.

I grew up with a clinch knot then an improved clinch knot. Switching to a trilene knot for braid and all lines was a lot easier for me. Simply a clinch knot with two passes through the eye. jmho

18 hours ago, Standard said:

I don't often run straight braid to a lure, but when I have the palomar has worked great.

Same. I’m usually throwing topwater in the fall if I’m running braid straight to the lure. I tie this knot because I don’t feel like losing an $8+ plug.

Palomar...period ?

Palomar for me too. Braid, mono, fluoro it works equally well on them all as long as it's tied right.

 

1 hour ago, Catt said:

Palomar...period ?

 

...man of many words.

50 minutes ago, WIGuide said:

Palomar for me too. Braid, mono, fluoro it works equally well on them all as long as it's tied right.

 

 

Heard lot of anglers talk about how good they are at tying knots but they can't tie a Palomar.

 

Some say ya gotta pull the tag end first while others say pull the main line first.

 

If tied correctly you should be able to hold both, the knot should slide down effortlessly. Then I chinch it down by pulling the tag end first, then the main.

4 hours ago, Steve1357 said:

I grew up with a clinch knot then an improved clinch knot. Switching to a trilene knot for braid and all lines was a lot easier for me. Simply a clinch knot with two passes through the eye. jmho

Whoa….. Are you me?

 

This exactly describes my evolution in knot tying.