Luke Barnes Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 How bass are to the US and Japan, what is the most popular fish people fish for around Europe? I imagine it differs by country, but all ive ever heard about European fishing is carp. Freshwater fish that is. Just sitting here and curious about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User MN Fisher Posted December 9, 2021 Super User Share Posted December 9, 2021 Well, bass are popular with the European members here. @Tim Kelly (London, England) and @JohnFromLisbon (Lisbon, Portugal) are semi-regulars...John's even been online a couple of times for our Zoom meetings that Boomstick arranges. I think we just recently got another Englander as a member too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User GreenPig Posted December 9, 2021 Super User Share Posted December 9, 2021 Wels catfish? Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 9, 2021 Global Moderator Share Posted December 9, 2021 Carp and it's not even close 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finessegenics Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Yup, it’s carp. The amount of detail you can put into carp fishing is incredible. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Barnes Posted December 9, 2021 Author Share Posted December 9, 2021 7 hours ago, Finessegenics said: Yup, it’s carp. The amount of detail you can put into carp fishing is incredible. Ive looked into it a little bit and wow is there so many options to fling out pack bait or boilies! Hair rigs, method leads, zig rigs, all this stuff on top of rod and reel I can see how it can be that way. Ive still yet to catch a carp but I havent put a good honest effort into it either. 12 hours ago, MN Fisher said: Well, bass are popular with the European members here. @Tim Kelly (London, England) and @JohnFromLisbon (Lisbon, Portugal) are semi-regulars...John's even been online a couple of times for our Zoom meetings that Boomstick arranges. I think we just recently got another Englander as a member too. I guess I'm ignorant and need to do some reading, but I didnt know there were black bass in Europe. I always think of large and small mouth as solely American fish but I know they got released in Japan and it took off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User MN Fisher Posted December 9, 2021 Super User Share Posted December 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Luke Barnes said: I guess I'm ignorant and need to do some reading, but I didnt know there were black bass in Europe. I always think of large and small mouth as solely American fish but I know they got released in Japan and it took off. I think it was an exchange - we got Brown Trout, they got LMBs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finessegenics Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 23 minutes ago, Luke Barnes said: I guess I'm ignorant and need to do some reading, but I didnt know there were black bass in Europe. I always think of large and small mouth as solely American fish but I know they got released in Japan and it took off. If I'm not mistaken smallmouth are only really established in North America and Hawaii. In most of western europe, largemouth bass are prevalent. Especially in Spain, Italy and Portugal. I could not find any information about smallmouth bass in europe. I found a research paper from the Netherlands written in 2017. They included a table on where and when smallmouth were introduced and the most recent official sightings of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 10, 2021 Global Moderator Share Posted December 10, 2021 11 hours ago, Luke Barnes said: Ive looked into it a little bit and wow is there so many options to fling out pack bait or boilies! Hair rigs, method leads, zig rigs, all this stuff on top of rod and reel I can see how it can be that way. Ive still yet to catch a carp but I havent put a good honest effort into it either. I guess I'm ignorant and need to do some reading, but I didnt know there were black bass in Europe. I always think of large and small mouth as solely American fish but I know they got released in Japan and it took off. South Africa has a very good largemouth bass population as well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Hi. Carp, depressingly, are far and away the most popular quarry in the UK. I'm not aware of any smallmouth in Europe, I believe they are Japan though? I imagine smallmouth would be very well suited to western Europe, but there is a resistance to stocking non native species. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PressuredFishing Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 It's carp, they also got perch, but alot of people out there that don't want to fish for carp saltwater fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basscrusher Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 I believe black bass in Spain, and maybe Portugal, were introduced by American service members stationed there. I could be wrong, but I've heard this several times. Pike are a big deal in Scandinavia it seems. British perch fishing is something that appeals to me greatly. They get much bigger over there, but they're still pursued with light tackle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironbjorn Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Don't they have pike? I'd fish for pike over carp. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted December 16, 2021 Global Moderator Share Posted December 16, 2021 30 minutes ago, ironbjorn said: Don't they have pike? I'd fish for pike over carp. Amen. I’d rather shovel coal than fish for carp 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironbjorn Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Just now, TnRiver46 said: Amen. I’d rather shovel coal than fish for carp A perfect example of one man's trash being another man's treasure. I don't know a single person in the states who fishes for carp on purpose or even likes to catch them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted December 16, 2021 Global Moderator Share Posted December 16, 2021 Just now, ironbjorn said: A perfect example of one man's trash being another man's treasure. I don't know a single person in the states who fishes for carp on purpose or even likes to catch them. I know several! To each his own I guess. I like fish that attack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Barnes Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 23 hours ago, ironbjorn said: A perfect example of one man's trash being another man's treasure. I don't know a single person in the states who fishes for carp on purpose or even likes to catch them. I want to catch a carp and plan on fishing for them sometime soon Ive never caught one, they get huge, and it's getting colder so will ease off bass fishing until spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankN209 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Informative Fisherman here in CA has a few videos on carp fishing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFromLisbon Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 If we're talking freshwater, I can say that carp is probably the most fished for species. Bass is fairly popular, especially here in Portugal, in Spain, and Italy (and a bit in France as well I think), but carp fishing is still the most popular form of fishing. These guys have rigs and digital strike indicators and they camp out overnight in camo like they're hunting for boar or deer... If you move further north/northeast you start seeing more folks fishing for northern pike and zander (the walleye's European cousin). I know a guy up north, a German guy who lives in Denmark, who's crazy about them. For the life of me I can't understand why carp is as prized as it is. Sure, they pull like a freight train, but they're some of the ugliest fish around. And what's the point of having all of that gear if you can't even touch it half the time ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User N Florida Mike Posted January 16, 2022 Super User Share Posted January 16, 2022 On 12/16/2021 at 2:06 PM, ironbjorn said: A perfect example of one man's trash being another man's treasure. I don't know a single person in the states who fishes for carp on purpose or even likes to catch them. Ive done it some in one pond , and my lake .. On light line , they are sporty. Actually snagged one once with a saltwater rod and he fought just like a big redfish, he peeled off nearly 100 yards of line in no time. 23 pounder. The problem I have with them is I wouldn’t eat one… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txchaser Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 On 12/16/2021 at 1:06 PM, ironbjorn said: A perfect example of one man's trash being another man's treasure. I don't know a single person in the states who fishes for carp on purpose or even likes to catch them. I have a buddy that fishes for them on a fly rod. Pretty epic battle with a big carp and light line. Not for me, but he has a blast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User casts_by_fly Posted February 5, 2022 Super User Share Posted February 5, 2022 I lived in the UK for 12 years, only coming back to the US just over 2 years ago. Carp/bream/tench are the most fished for as they are in every pond and lake in the country. There are two main methods for freshwater pond fishing. 1- how much weight can I bag as quickly as possible and 2) what’s the biggest of a species I can catch. Style 1 is based in competitive match fishing. You sit in one spot (a peg or a swim) and have a fixed amount of time to catch fish. Doesn’t matter if you catch 50 lb of 1lb fish or 10x 5lbers. Top weight total wins. Here is where you try to catch whatever the pond has the most of and where the 1-4 lb carp win. You feed the swim with chum until you have bunches of fish and then catch as many as possible. Here is where looooooong poles (30’ or more) reach you to the far bank and put your bait exactly where you want it in 10 seconds of shipping the pole out. This is MLF style. Style two would be called specimen hunting. This is specialist territory. Carp rods are 10’+ affairs with 20 lb line and multi component rigs and weights. Guys camp out for days at a time with the hope of catching one of the named fish that is known in the lake. This isn’t competition usually, but more passion to find the biggest there is. It isn’t limited to carp but they are the most popular and known. Both feature carp heavily but not exclusively. Bream (not bluegill like, but a different species), tench, roach, and some others feature depending on the water. In running water there are a few more. Some places have perch, Zander and pike but that’s getting more specialized. I don’t think they are stocked anywhere. I didn’t get into it heavily but since I had a couple lakes nearby I would do a little. Carp on bread on the surface in summer on ML spinning gear is fun. Mostly 1-3 lb fish but you get the occasional 10 lb. greyling and trout are a ton of fun if you like moving water. I fished both fly and centerpin for them. Access is tougher and more expensive. Nothing like the plethora of free streams here in the US. That said, a nice October day with good flow and clean water is so much fun for chalkstream greyling. i think there are two ponds in the UK that list largemouth as being present. I never searched them out so can’t verify. thanks rick 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IneedAnewScreenName-98161861 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I've watched some perch fishing videos from the Netherlands. They are huge! Like LMB size. I thought that was cool. Definitely seen lots of pike fishing too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Barnes Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 11 hours ago, IneedAnewScreenName-98161861 said: I've watched some perch fishing videos from the Netherlands. They are huge! Like LMB size. I thought that was cool. Definitely seen lots of pike fishing too. Now that would be cool. I'm going to look that up later. Yellow perch is a bucket list fish for me. On 2/4/2022 at 11:35 PM, casts_by_fly said: I lived in the UK for 12 years, only coming back to the US just over 2 years ago. Carp/bream/tench are the most fished for as they are in every pond and lake in the country. There are two main methods for freshwater pond fishing. 1- how much weight can I bag as quickly as possible and 2) what’s the biggest of a species I can catch. Style 1 is based in competitive match fishing. You sit in one spot (a peg or a swim) and have a fixed amount of time to catch fish. Doesn’t matter if you catch 50 lb of 1lb fish or 10x 5lbers. Top weight total wins. Here is where you try to catch whatever the pond has the most of and where the 1-4 lb carp win. You feed the swim with chum until you have bunches of fish and then catch as many as possible. Here is where looooooong poles (30’ or more) reach you to the far bank and put your bait exactly where you want it in 10 seconds of shipping the pole out. This is MLF style. Style two would be called specimen hunting. This is specialist territory. Carp rods are 10’+ affairs with 20 lb line and multi component rigs and weights. Guys camp out for days at a time with the hope of catching one of the named fish that is known in the lake. This isn’t competition usually, but more passion to find the biggest there is. It isn’t limited to carp but they are the most popular and known. Both feature carp heavily but not exclusively. Bream (not bluegill like, but a different species), tench, roach, and some others feature depending on the water. In running water there are a few more. Some places have perch, Zander and pike but that’s getting more specialized. I don’t think they are stocked anywhere. I didn’t get into it heavily but since I had a couple lakes nearby I would do a little. Carp on bread on the surface in summer on ML spinning gear is fun. Mostly 1-3 lb fish but you get the occasional 10 lb. greyling and trout are a ton of fun if you like moving water. I fished both fly and centerpin for them. Access is tougher and more expensive. Nothing like the plethora of free streams here in the US. That said, a nice October day with good flow and clean water is so much fun for chalkstream greyling. i think there are two ponds in the UK that list largemouth as being present. I never searched them out so can’t verify. thanks rick What kind of bait or lure do you use for greyling and zander? I would love to fish for all of those species. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User casts_by_fly Posted March 11, 2022 Super User Share Posted March 11, 2022 22 minutes ago, Luke Barnes said: Now that would be cool. I'm going to look that up later. Yellow perch is a bucket list fish for me. What kind of bait or lure do you use for greyling and zander? I would love to fish for all of those species. I never fished Zander. They weren’t in my area. Greyling were mostly on a fly rod. Drift small nymphs and other bug like things. Little pink maggot looking nymphs were usually the best. I also fished a centerpin for them with actual maggots. Tons of fun. I caught a few that touched 20” in the time I was there. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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