Hey Got Bass? this pic was discussed a while back. Here's the link

http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1148412840/0

Oh boy Got bass, nobody in that pic has been identified. Nothing in that pic has been proven. That is not Perry! Now before you all jump on me I used to be the biggest Perry doubter alive. Now I just dont know but I do like to clear up the facts. That Pic is not Perry. I emailed the editor of Bassmaster about that pic and he said as to the authenticity of that photo its anybody's guess. All they Know about that picture is that it was found when sombody's aunt died a few years ago. The said her family could, did I say COULD HAVE know Perry's family. They also said those palm trees in the back ground looked like the ones in front of the post office where Perry alegedly weighed his fish. Trying to make that picture into proof is a HUGE stretch. That big fish could have been found floating, heck they could have dynomited it. It could have been a big fish caught in Florida. I am a reasonable man and I am uncertain if I believe in the record or not, but IF that were Perryin the Pic it would have been good enough for me. I would have given him the benefit of the doubt. My overall position on the subject is this. I dont think iot should be the record bassed on the lack of evidence and all the discrepencies. I am not saying he didnt catch it though. I am also not saying thats not his fish in the picture. It could be but there is nothing to go along with it and its not Perry or any of his reletives in the pic.

Ok guys, I've been watching this thread closely for awhile now, and it's going nowhere fast.  6 pages of "Perry is the record holder" "Well, not REALLY", "Yes he is", "I doubt it", "California RULES!", "No it doesn't", "Perry is great!", "You have no proof", "I have enough proof!", "Well MY state is bigger than yours!" ....

So unless you have something riveting and NEW to add, let's move on.

I agee Glenn it wasnt supossed to be a Perry post. We have had a ton of those and peoples opinions just dont change much. It seems people from the eastcoast doubts the big Cali fish and people from the west doubts Perry's fish. People believe or disbelieve what they want to no matter how much proof or lack of proof there is! I posted videos Of Butch Brown catching monsters on swimbaits on another site and because it wasnt thier state they could not accept it. It was almost comical reading the responses of how the simple video with a boat mounted camera was faked. I just posted the list because I found it very interesting and I have seen a lot of list that were VERY weak and had many large fish missing from them.

This list, even though its a couple years old and I am sure its missing some is still the best one I have found. I cant wait to see if Terry updated it with current info!

Question? Why the 4 year discrepancy?

Consider the following: Ray Scott the founder of B.A.S.S. sent one of his reporters to do an interview with Perry in 1978 and administer a lie detector test. Perry only did the interview and declined the lie detector test. Quote Craig DeFronzo earthworm77

1974 George Perry, who caught the 22-4 world record largemouth in 1932, dies in plane crash near Birmingham, Ala. Quote B.A.S.S web site

Just trying to catch up  8-)

The interview was conducted by Terry Drace in 1973 for Bassmaster magazine Ray Scott wanted Perry to take a lie detector test. As you know Perry did not.

Ok back to the subject! That is one sweet list! All the way down to 102. I hope I get my name in the top 100 this year! I don't think the record is getting broken this year. To be honest I think it will stand for another 4 or 5 years, just my personal opinion.

Agreed, that is one sweet list, and fishing the waters around the midwest I will likely never be on that list.....I'll shoot for the Missouri State Record instead-much less controversy anyway!   ;D

Raul made a great point somewhere within this topic-what about the monsters caught in Mexico but not recorded? I have been doing research on El Salto for a potential trip this year and the amount of pics I see with people holding 10 pounders is amazing.  If a lake can produce multiple 10 pounders, isn't there a real decent chance that the holds a potential world record, assuming one has not already been caught out of that water? Correct me if I am wrong, but E Salto is not the only lake in Mexico capable of double digit bass...

FD

Let's put the fork in this turkey (till next time)

Any comment on taking Mike longest name off of this list?

Good threads are like a comet @MN Fisher they make a showing every few years lol or 

 

good threads never die!!! Or 
 

Bass fishermen never die, their rods just go limp! ?

Georgia is the best still. ✌

 

Change my mind...

44 minutes ago, NittyGrittyBoy said:

Georgia is the best still. ✌

 

Change my mind...

I gotta say, I don't believe in the Perry record at all, and I'm also from Georgia.

On 1/16/2007 at 8:06 AM, Fishing Doug said:

Agreed, that is one sweet list, and fishing the waters around the midwest I will likely never be on that list.....I'll shoot for the Missouri State Record instead-much less controversy anyway!   ;D

Raul made a great point somewhere within this topic-what about the monsters caught in Mexico but not recorded? I have been doing research on El Salto for a potential trip this year and the amount of pics I see with people holding 10 pounders is amazing.  If a lake can produce multiple 10 pounders, isn't there a real decent chance that the holds a potential world record, assuming one has not already been caught out of that water? Correct me if I am wrong, but E Salto is not the only lake in Mexico capable of double digit bass...

FD

There are many lakes in Mexico that have no lodges, or guides and bass are considered trash fish to the commercial fishermen because they eat tilapia.  One of the largest is Trigomil in the state of Jalisco.  Most of the bass in this lake will die of old age having never seen a lure.   I know of one bass a friend caught there that was right at 15 lbs.  The locals had never even seen a sport fisherman before.  Many other smaller lakes have potential for giants too.  I found one unnamed small lake where I have landed a few over 10 this summer.  I plan on exploring another half dozen similar lakes next summer when I have more time.  I'm not saying there is a world record in any lake in Mexico, but the chances are as good as anywhere.

2 hours ago, Flipnamazing said:

Any comment on taking Mike longest name off of this list?

Hello Flip and Welcome to Bass Resource ~

Interesting first post

A-Jay

I know of 2 lakes that removed Long's catches from their records. The list does not reflect that.

2 hours ago, king fisher said:

There are many lakes in Mexico that have no lodges, or guides and bass are considered trash fish to the commercial fishermen because they eat tilapia.  One of the largest is Trigomil in the state of Jalisco.  Most of the bass in this lake will die of old age having never seen a lure.   I know of one bass a friend caught there that was right at 15 lbs.  The locals had never even seen a sport fisherman before.  Many other smaller lakes have potential for giants too.  I found one unnamed small lake where I have landed a few over 10 this summer.  I plan on exploring another half dozen similar lakes next summer when I have more time.  I'm not saying there is a world record in any lake in Mexico, but the chances are as good as anywhere.

If you are willing to guide a fellow bass fisherman just let me know.

1) All of Mike Long's records should be removed. In retrospect, it's kind of funny to read the comments in this thread about him.

 

2) 'Documented' is the key word here. IMHO, there are many fish that could have made the list but weren't formally documented.

You can tell it is Winter when people post on old threads like this one.

12 hours ago, king fisher said:

There are many lakes in Mexico that have no lodges, or guides and bass are considered trash fish to the commercial fishermen because they eat tilapia.  One of the largest is Trigomil in the state of Jalisco.  Most of the bass in this lake will die of old age having never seen a lure.   I know of one bass a friend caught there that was right at 15 lbs.  The locals had never even seen a sport fisherman before.  Many other smaller lakes have potential for giants too.  I found one unnamed small lake where I have landed a few over 10 this summer.  I plan on exploring another half dozen similar lakes next summer when I have more time.  I'm not saying there is a world record in any lake in Mexico, but the chances are as good as anywhere.

 Bass taste better than tilapia, maybe they aren’t as easy to net? 
 

also with the bass you’ve been catching lately, I’d say your are as close to a record fish as anyone right now ! A couple over 10 in a summer is incredible! Keep after em 

On 12/25/2020 at 8:01 PM, NittyGrittyBoy said:

Georgia is the best still. ✌

 

Change my mind...

Kurita's bass was bigger than Perry's fish, it just didn't meet the IGFA's 2oz requirement for records under 25lbs (which makes no sense, the fish was bigger so it's the record IMO). It was also much better documented than Perry's fish which makes it much easier to believe. There was no questions left about Kurita's fish, straight from the IGFA "It was an extremely clean and thorough application," said Jason Schratwieser, conservation director of IGFA.

 

Plus;

Perry's fish was 22lb 4oz

Kurita's fish was 22lb 4.97oz

 

That's not a tie...

Having nothing to do on Christmas day, I read through this thread.  This debate has been going on since Perry entered his fish in the magazine contest.  I believe George Perry caught the fish he entered.  At the time, he didn't even know there was a contest.  Someone else told him to enter.  Back then, no one  cared about world record bass.   All he knew was he caught a big fish.  He took it to the local post office and they weighed it.  Good enough for me. End of story.

 

Even if his fish was a hoax, it has been inspiring bass anglers for nearly 100 years.  As a small boy, I used to dream that I would catch a bass like that.  It never happened, but that dream kept me fishing.

 

As you can see by the California and Japan records, it is theoretically possible to engineer a world record bass.  Frankly, I am surprised that it hasn't happened.  A bass over 20 pounds is a freek of nature.  To produce a bass that size, you need the right combination of genes, food and habitat.  Florida strain bass are not native to California or Japan.  Should stocked fish even be measured against Perry's bass? 

 

The largest bass I have seen with my own eyes was mounted on the wall in a Howey-in-the-Hills tackle store back in the early seventies.  That fish was reported to be 17 pounds.  It looked to be every bit that big. The Toho record is in excess of 17 pounds.  Some people wonder if Florida will ever produce a world record bass?  I believe that ship has sailed.  Habitat loss, fishing pressure and the introduction of non native species and plants make this nearly impossible. If there is a world record bass swimming in Florida, it's in Lake Apopka.  This giant lake on the outskirts of Orlando was so polluted by agricultural runoff, that no one fished it for years.  Restoration efforts have had little success.  However, stocked bass have taken hold. It's a nasty place to fish, but the fish are healthy and big.  Keep your eyes on this lake.  I'm sure the ghost of George Perry is fishing it.  ☺️

RIP Dottie

 

You're my recordholder ❤️

9 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Kurita's bass was bigger than Perry's fish, it just didn't meet the IGFA's 2oz requirement for records under 25lbs (which makes no sense, the fish was bigger so it's the record IMO). It was also much better documented than Perry's fish which makes it much easier to believe. There was no questions left about Kurita's fish, straight from the IGFA "It was an extremely clean and thorough application," said Jason Schratwieser, conservation director of IGFA.

 

Plus;

Perry's fish was 22lb 4oz

Kurita's fish was 22lb 4.97oz

 

That's not a tie...

 

I understand your logic & don't disagree with it but in defense of the IGFA's rule for fish under 25lbs an old record must be beaten by a 2oz minimum. I have always felt this was in place to allow for weighing discrepancies between scales & changing technologies. In other words don't let a less than 2 ounce differential decide who gets the record. If you beat me by half a pound for big fish in a tournament I accept it & don't have any bad feelings. But if you beat me by one or two ounces my mind says maybe your scale was reading more generously than mine. It raises doubt as to who was the real winner. Maybe if read on the same scale both fish were the same weight? Maybe the flopping fish weighed differently than the the fish that wasn't flopping? Scales are excepted for accuracy for records but there is a + or - tolerance level of difference. The 2 ounce rule helps to eliminate that difference.