Jeffrey Walker Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 I fish out of a kayak and I really love pitching and flipping it's my go to technique and I've noticed that I don't really like the longer flipping sticks. I've tried a few of the traditional 7-11 sticks, way too longz. they just did just don't feel right to me they feel too big. anybody have any shorter under 7 foot flipping sticks? i prefer steez, megbass nex etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User WRB Posted October 7 Super User Share Posted October 7 1. Longer rod gives a big advantage flip casting. 2. You don’t need the reel to flip cast It’s all line and rod. 3. You are more then likely pitching where the reel is used to let out additional 30’ of line that any decent casting reel can do. Look for a MH or H fast action jig and worm rod in whatever length you prefer. Megabass Perfect Pitch should work. Tom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Walker Posted October 8 Author Share Posted October 8 I don't see the benefit of the longer rod and find the added weight and length more cumbersome, especially in a kayak. I use a lot of underhand and side pitches and if i have make a longer "cast" i just use a roll cast which is pretty controllable. I'm thinking of picking up the megabass tachyon shaft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User WRB Posted October 8 Super User Share Posted October 8 Roll cast works! Standing up in a kayak depends on the you and kayak. Dee Thomas the father of flipping used a 12’ rod sitting down! Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Brown Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 The shortest I'd go is probably 7'1 for flipping and pitching and I'd probably get an Irod gen3 in that size in the H/F or MH/F action depending on how hard you set the hook. My preference is a 7'6 but it's definitely a lot of rod swinging around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User casts_by_fly Posted October 8 Super User Share Posted October 8 The falcon head turner was designed as a short in pitching rod. It’s 6’10” and fast action. It is rated 1/4-3/4 and that’s probably right. You could call it 1/4-1 also. Falcon rates it as a heavy, but it’s the lighter side of heavy compared to other rod makers. More like a bigger MH from some. Great rod for pitching 1/4-3/8 plus plastic or equivalent jig. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Catt Posted October 8 Super User Share Posted October 8 Kistler Helium HE7045HMH-7'0" Power:4.5 Heavy Medium-Heavy X-Fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonnieP Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 I use a Steez Power pitch for 3/8 and 1/2 ounce jigs and love it for pitching. It’s 7’2 . I also have a Megabass Orochi xx Perfect pitch. Nice rod except it’s too heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jejenkyns Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 P5 Tach Shaft, designed for just that purpose. I've never handled one mind you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandersnatch Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 7 hours ago, jejenkyns said: P5 Tach Shaft, designed for just that purpose. I've never handled one mind you. I have a p5 tachyon shaft and it’s a blast. For quite a bit longer there’s also the steez power pitch. You can’t really give recommendations on a rod without knowing what is being pitched to including its weight and cover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyrewulf Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 The Dobyns Fury 664c fishes very heavy. A 4 power (H) Dobyns rod would normally fish like a MH, but this rod is an exception. It fishes like a 5 power, a true heavy rod. This is due to its length of 6'6". And for what you're asking, that sounds perfect for you. The only problem would be that some people say they're not sensitive enough. I don't share that opinion. ymmv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Columbia Craw Posted October 9 Super User Share Posted October 9 NFC Edge Black Widow MBR 705-1C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontclairDave Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 On 10/7/2024 at 9:20 PM, casts_by_fly said: The falcon head turner was designed as a short in pitching rod. It’s 6’10” and fast action. It is rated 1/4-3/4 and that’s probably right. You could call it 1/4-1 also. Falcon rates it as a heavy, but it’s the lighter side of heavy compared to other rod makers. More like a bigger MH from some. Great rod for pitching 1/4-3/8 plus plastic or equivalent jig. My favorite all-around rod. It can do anything including pitching and flipping. I use it out of a kayak. Length is perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP Duty Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 They make a 6'5"XH in the Poison Glorious line. I have the 7'4" version. It is a moderate tapered powerhouse you can use for swimbaits, dragging football jigs, and pitching/flipping. https://jpangler.com/index.php/shimano-21-poison-glorious-165xh-sb.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Rutten Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 Are you actually flipping from a kayak? I used an nrx 804c for a few years, fun little rod, great for pitching and skipping but flipping might not work so well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Walker Posted October 12 Author Share Posted October 12 Yeah i stand up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNBankFishing Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 2 hours ago, Bass Rutten said: Are you actually flipping from a kayak? I used an nrx 804c for a few years, fun little rod, great for pitching and skipping but flipping might not work so well. Most purpose built fishing kayaks today are stable enough to punch/flip from without issue. I felt stable enough to be on troll while pitching laydowns along a bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Rutten Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 2 hours ago, TNBankFishing said: Most purpose built fishing kayaks today are stable enough to punch/flip from without issue. I felt stable enough to be on troll while pitching laydowns along a bank. No argument there, it was the length of the rod that I meant might be an issue, I can’t see flipping effectively with a 6’8” rod. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User webertime Posted October 12 Super User Share Posted October 12 Megabass Perfect Pitch or Evergreen Combat Stick 73Hmf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNBankFishing Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 4 hours ago, Bass Rutten said: No argument there, it was the length of the rod that I meant might be an issue, I can’t see flipping effectively with a 6’8” rod. If the bend is moderate you’re in for a good time. Most JDM rods provide both the length and taper needed to be a solid punching stick. For USDM I’ve liked the 6’9 skipping jig tat elite for the same purpose. I used mine for frogs and punching short cover when I was on a yak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User casts_by_fly Posted October 13 Super User Share Posted October 13 10 hours ago, KP Duty said: They make a 6'5"XH in the Poison Glorious line. I have the 7'4" version. It is a moderate tapered powerhouse you can use for swimbaits, dragging football jigs, and pitching/flipping. https://jpangler.com/index.php/shimano-21-poison-glorious-165xh-sb.html That’s a pretty wild spec. 6’5” and rated up to 5 oz. I can’t imagine it does well under 3/4 or 1 oz. Short range swimbait rod? Probably make a good amazon peacock bass rod. 9 hours ago, Jeffrey Walker said: Yeah i stand up. I just assumed you were sitting which is why you wanted a shorter rod. If you’re standing then you have a lot more flexibility. There’s a big difference in weight between 7’11” and 7’2-7’4”. And you’ll find a lot more rods in that range for what you’re looking for. If you want a shorter rear butt there are a few rods that have it. For what you’re describing (minus the length) I would have said the Cara amistad. At 7’3” it’s not a huge flipping stick but will do up to a solid ounce plus plastic for a light punching rod. Really light in the tip, very low swing weight, balances great with a 6.5 oz reel or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Walker Posted October 13 Author Share Posted October 13 Still want a shorter rod. i do a lot of underhand flips, so thinking the tachyon shaft might be the best bet. I don't know of any other rod that has its specs at its lengthS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Rutten Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 I think a few folks here may be conflating different techniques, flipping is done with 1.5 rod lengths of fixed line controlled with your non-reel hand, the reel itself is not used or engaged while fishing. If we are talking about flipping and not pitching, punching, or skipping, then the more line out the better, you need the reach of a long rod which is why 7’6” has been the flipping rod standard length for many decades. If your just pitching there are still numerous advantages to a longer rod; pitching distance, hook set speed/power, fish and line control. Shorter rod advantages: cast control and accuracy, easier to manage and handle, lighter, more leverage (lifting power). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyKeyBe Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 48 minutes ago, Jeffrey Walker said: Still want a shorter rod. i do a lot of underhand flips, Are you sure your flipping? NM. Bass Rutten beat me to it. I actually prefer a shorter rod for pitching. I'm short and a bank beater. The shorter rods just seem to work better for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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