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    A coworker put me on to these guys. Pretty good tune.     

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7/10 - solid rating for me, I'm usually pretty picky. I'd honestly give about the same for what I'll share below, because he smashed a few too many syllables into a line too many times and got sloppy. 

 

But I'm diggin this Lanie track and I'll peep more. 

 

@slonezpand @Motoboss I used to bump Tom, we built this house was incredible. 

 

But dude just keeps recycling the same material now for like 5 years, making the same song to a different beat. Plus he started pandering just a little too hard without much of an attempt at any critical logical analytical investigation into any opposing or at least neutral perspective. 

 

When he mentions the nonsense of the political junk he's right, but then goes right back to pandering like he forgot he just said he knows it's all pretend anyway.

 

 

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4 - not my style at all

 

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I rate it a 6/7

Pretty good song, but he’s got his country wrong!
Fish do bite when the cows lay down, which is typically a sign of an approaching storm, and the bite is much better.

 

 

Don’t know where he fishes…….. 

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@Motoboss I don’t personally have any sort of cattle and I don’t exactly live by many cattle farms but I pass enough of them in my daily work routine that I’m now going to be watching this season. Question for you, does the laying down theory work with horses also?

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@12poundbass Thank you for replying as I was honestly asking as I wasn’t raised with any sort of farm animals. I follow a handful of Instagram accounts that raise and or rescue everything from farm animals of every variety to domestic animals from dogs, cats and even small mammals and cold blooded animals and have learned that horses are prey animals and as you said very rarely sleep laying down which I found absolutely fascinating and love learning about animal behavior. 

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@Motoboss I don’t personally have any sort of cattle and I don’t exactly live by many cattle farms but I pass enough of them in my daily work routine that I’m now going to be watching this season. Question for you, does the laying down theory work with horses also?

Being raised around farms, cattle & corn country I’ve watched cattle all my life and they truly do react to barometric pressure and oncoming rain activity.

Horse’s on the other hand typically respond to food!

As @12poundbass statement is correct as weather usually doesn’t effect their behavior much, unless it’s tornadoes  then they run for cover. Like most of us.

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This one.

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Well that was an interesting tune. Not my cup of tea, but tasteful rock music. According to the OP in this ongoing thread I am supposed to rate that song on scale of 1 to 10 and then post one of my own.

 

I will give it an overall 7.

 

I had a hard time with the vocalist's voice. Loved the drummer's mask! The guitar player was very tasteful indeed. I watched him play and noticed how he did his best to fit in and play around rather than like a lot of egotistical guitarist, they tend to try and play over top of others. No so here. I appreciated that and increased the rating because of it.

 

This next song I would like to post comes with a long, long story. But I won't write it all. Only say that I had something to do with the band members this song came from. And decades later those same surviving band members agreed to record this next song with a new band called Six Gun. Their guitarist has been drawing attention.

 

I got pulled into this recording project because in order to replicate the original sounds, they chose to use some of the same equipment to record it with. 

 

So I spent some time rebuilding some 1970's Peavey Pacer guitar amplifiers. One of them was used to record the guitar parts of this next track which is a modern day cover of a song the Rossington-Collins Band wrote and recorded over 40 years ago. More like 45 years now. I had a hard time listening to the vocalist in the original RCB band, but this new female vocalist Sada Davidson absolutely nails it with her incredible voice.

 

Before she walked into the studio to record this song she doubted herself and said she could not live up to do justice to the original version. We told her Sada, just be yourself. DO NOT try and sing it like she did. Sing it your way. Make it your own. After a good pep talk and winding her up, she went in there, turned out the lights, and just unleashed her magic with that swaying back and forth like she does as it just flows out of her!

 

Six Gun is backed up here by legendary guitarist Barry Harwood and drummer Derek Hess, both of the original Rossington Collins band made up mostly of plane crash survivors of the Lynyrd Skynyrd band.

 

My only contribution here was to tear down and rebuild 50 year old guitar amplifiers and make them sound like new again clean and clear with no hum. Bring back that original 1975 and 1977 Peavey guitar amp sound.

 

This is what can happen when young kids record with legendary professionals! I get the chills hearing this one. This is when the dead get to live again! I hope some of you will enjoy this remake cover:

 

 

This is legendary guitarist Barry Harwood during rehearsals using the 1977 Peavey Pacer series 2 I rebuilt for this project.

 

Back in 1970's Barry Harwood was actually asked to replace Ed King on guitar in Lynyrd Skynyrd in 1975, but Barry Harwood here had to turn that offer down because he was under contract and on tour with Melanie. Barry Harwood shown here did play mandolin on original Lynyrd Skynyrd albums from the 1970's, so we have all heard his efforts on guitar and mandolin and just did not know it.

 

After the Lynyrd Skynyrd tragic plane crash in 1977, Barry Harwood was called on to be third guitar in the plane crash survivors band Rossington Collins band in 1979.

 

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Here's the band... young kids really. Kids and white haired old timers. This is how Southerners pass down a musical legacy right here!

 

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Sorry photo is hidden. It is an unpublished photo from my collection of Barry Harwood on stage with Rossington Collins band back in 1980. This photo is from the Great Southern Music Hall in Orlando, Florida where the RCB band played their first show outside of the band's hometown of Jacksonville, Florida. Barry sure liked his knee high socks!

 

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This next image shows Allen Collins and Steve Gaines, the guitarists for the Lynyrd Skynyrd band, warming up before a show in their dressing room. Sitting on the counter is a Peavey Pacer original 1975 amplifier. The real Skynyrd used them too!

 

One additional detail. In the Skynyrd pacer seen below, a JBL speaker was installed. When I rebuilt the pacer for the above recording project, an original Allen Collins owned JBL speaker was installed so the pacer used on this recording project as closely matched Lynyrd Skynyrd as we possibly could. I think it sounds great if I do say so myself!

 

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Wow! Two great songs. A-Jay I'll give yours a 7 and 12poundbass yours is an 8 to me, maybe a little higher. I specialize in regional music starting in Florida and moving to SE USA. I have worked with untold numbers of musicians over 45 years, but I always support independents who are shut out of mainstream music and never heard on any radio stations nationwide. 

 

So I really appreciate hearing and learning about new Southern artists like Tim Goodin carrying on the passed down musical legacy the South is known for- Blues, bluegrass, jazz, country, mountain music, Southern rock, Native Indian music, and much more. The South is a musical garden the world has enjoyed the fruits of for centuries! And preyed upon by yankee slickers for profits in their northern recording companies and that brings me to an artist and some music I would like to share with all of you.

 

There is a band from St. Louis, Missouri called "Mama's Pride."

 

And if you don't mind I would like to provide some background on this band.

 

Mama's Pride is primarily 2 brothers. Pat and Danny Liston. These 2 brothers formed this band to try and make it in the music business and they almost succeeded but fate had other plans.

 

Since this band did not  have commercial success and you never heard them on the radio back in the 1970's, this band opened up concerts for all the major Southern rock bands of the day back in the 1970's.

 

And when Gregg Allman was down and out after his brother Duane Allman died, Gregg needed a quick band to get back on the road with. He hired the entire band Mama's Pride as his own personal solo now Gregg Allman band. So Pat and Danny thought they had made it and were on their way to success.

 

The former management of the Allman Brothers saw what Gregg was doing and pitched him an offer to put the Allman Brothers back together again. Gregg took the deal and wound up firing Mama's Pride back into NOTHINGNESS again. One shot at success shot down. But we got the Allman Brothers band back together and on the road again.

 

Mama's Pride next opportunity for fame came from lead singer of Lynyrd Skynyrd Ronnie Van Zant who saw something in that band and primarily saw something in Pat Liston. I think Ronnie saw himself and wanted to help that band to succeed. So Ronnie Van Zant himself contracted Mama's Pride to open up for the Lynyrd Skynyrd band starting AFTER the 1977 Baton Rouge, La. show. Mama's Pride was going to hookup with and join Lynyrd Skynyrd on the Street Survivors tour to open up shows starting in October of 1977.

 

Fate intervened again. The Lynyrd Skynyrd plane crashed before arriving at Baton Rouge killing lead singer Ronnie Van Zant, new guitarist Steve Gaines, his sister and backup singer Cassie Gaines, road manager Dean Kilpatrick and 2 pilots. 26 people on board. 7 died. And the rest are still messed up to this day. I am presently helping to support for the plane crash survivors to this day. I have known more than 6 or 7 or more survivors of that plane crash and we are frynds to this day. And yes its a Skynyrd thyng to spell frynds with a Y.

 

But, that plane crash put the last nail into the coffin for a great Southern rock band most have never heard of and never heard their incredible music. And I post this today in 2025 because now you can take a trip back to the 1970's to listen to quality music that is seriously lacking today.

 

Pat Liston is one of this country's great songwriters, arrangers, guitar player, and singer and band leader. And this is what Ronnie Van Zant saw in Pat Liston. Himself. A musician who wrote songs about real life and being simple people. Ronnie wanted to help Pat Liston and his band find the fame and fortune they deserved but it was never to be.

 

So I would like to share with you some of the music of Pat Liston. I am still in contact with him to this day. He is a great guy and in his 70's now his passion for his music is burning hot inside of him and when all other band members have retired and gone away from music, not so with Pat Liston. Every week I get emails from him with all of his new performance dates and shows. He goes it alone.

 

One of the songs that drew me to the music of Pat Liston and his band is a song called "Blue Mist." This song was written by Pat Liston in every detail. This is a song written and recorded and produced by amateurs that most would have called garage band level before Mama's Pride actually acquired a recording contract with Atlantic Records, some of the same people I worked for from that label.

 

"Blue Mist" if it had hit the radio airwaves nationwide back in 1976 or 1977 it would have been a major hit song and a single off the band's debut album no doubt about it. This song is a hit song from the 1970's most of you have never even heard of before now. I consider this song personally very influential to me and I have enjoyed listening to it for about 40 years now and I would like to share it with all of you. And down the road I will get into some of Pat's rockers...

 

Pat Liston is one of the greatest singer songwriters that you never got to hear back in the 1970's. In the following song, he wrote it, he sang it, he played guitar in it, he arranged it. This song is 100% Pat Liston with a band.

 

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Molly Hatchet! A real can of worms can be opened on that band! I liked the harder edginess' that band's guitars had. 

 

I spent many long years around those band members. Got to meet and work with most of them for years in numerous bands. Even made it to one of the band's albums and earned front cover image for the audio album, got the disc as well, most liner photos, and DVD cover as well.

 

In short because too many words are apparently frowned on, Molly Hatchet was held down and held back by the other great bands of Southern rock. Ronnie Van Zant of Lynyrd Skynyrd tried to help them going so far as to try and produce that band's first album and shop it to record companies.

 

Dave Hlubek and founder of Molly Hatchet told me they sat on their front porches for 9 years trying to get that band out of the starting gate and were getting angrier by the minute not being allowed out there with the other Southern greats like Skynyrd, Allman Brothers, Outlaws, Marshall Tucket Band, etc.

 

So on their first album they came out swinging with a song called Gator Country where they put down other Southern rock bands.

 

So Molly Hatchet was always trying to copy the others and from Skynyrd Molly Hatchet took the song FreeBird and recorded it on their live album along with another song Skynyrd played Called CrossRoads all without the permission of Skynyrd band members who were furious over it. I left town the night they recorded FreeBird with a Skynyrd band member so as to not be in JAX wanting to go do unto them what that band did unto others.

 

Skynyrd band members and fans had to read in the local newspaper Danny Joe Brown saying it was Molly Hatchet's duty to carry on for Skynyrd since they were gone now. And that they sometimes played FreeBird more than Skynyrd ever did since they played it sometimes twice a night, and Danny Joe Brown said Molly Hatchet played Skynyrd's song FreeBird better than Skynyrd ever did. Those were fighting words right there!

 

Interesting behind the scenes things going on I got to see some of it.

 

This song you posted "Dreams" is yet another one of the songs Molly Hatchet copied from another Southern rockin' band Allman Brothers.

 

I could write a book detailing decades of this band going all the way back to the beginning and why they earned the name the "GraveRobber band" which revolves around what happened in 1977 when Skynyrd died in a plane crash and Molly Hatchet's first album was when? 1978.

 

A direct connection right there and rock history too! The only reason Molly Hatchet was given a recording contract was because of the Lynyrd Skynyrd plane crash. Epic Records wanted to use Molly Hatchet to clean up right behind Skynyrd's demise. Hoping the fans would switch over to Molly Hatchet now that Skynyrd was gone. Hired to takeover another band's fan base and musical legacy. Hence the name given to them of graverobber band. Only out there because Skynyrd died and then out there to take their fans and income through the music of Molly Hatchet.

 

The story of Molly Hatchet is a very interesting one. Brutal on road stories. Just brutal is all I can say.

 

following image from my collection showing Nashville film documentary cameraman Rick Broyles behind us with camera in hand to left side of image, and then Jay Johnson of Southern Rock Allstars, his daddy was Jimmy Johnson of Muscle Shoals studio fame who recorded Skynyrd's first album, next is Phil McCormick and Dave Hlubek of Molly Hatchet and me squatting down in front because those 3 were too wide for me to get in shot beside them. 

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Have you ever heard Edge Of Sundown? A FreeBird like copy cat rip off! lol But great Southern rock here some of you may have never heard of before now... I give this one an 8 myself just for the twin stereo blistering leads in left and right channels. Turn it up loud! Great story behind this album...

 

 

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