Having been laid up for the past few months, for the most part, I've watched a lot of pro tournaments wire to wire. Nearly every one of those guys call pitching "flipping" nowadays. Same thing on YooToob. This isn't going to change. So, for all of you crusty old sticklers and grammar knotzees who are offended by this, just give up when someone calls a pitch a flip. Instead of trying to correct them by re-telling the story about how the flip was actually invented by Flippy Flipperson back in nineteen hundred and Oh 6...blah blah blah, just have a nice bran muffin instead, then try to let it go. Pitching is flipping now, but at least flipping's still flipping, so that's good. Right? Right! ?

Only if you use 65 pound braid

See cabin fever is a real thing! 

I've never used either while on the water, but somehow I know the difference.    However, I have practiced pitching (not flipping) off my rear porch.

 

I have the same problem with people, both professional and youtubers, not knowing when to use 'power' and 'action'.  I have to assume the professional knows the difference, but is just making a slip up.

If we accept this then we have to accept power being called "action." Over my dead body.

8 hours ago, PhishLI said:

So, for all of you crusty old sticklers and grammar knotzees who are offended by this, just give up when someone calls a pitch a flip.  

Well,  I know you’re right but I’m not getting any younger and I can’t let go of my crusty sticklerness.   To make matters worse,  these kids that don’t know the difference between a pitch and a flip won’t stay out of my yard!  ?

Why define any casting technique....just call it Fishing.

Sorry If bass fishing history bothers you.

Happy Fathers Day, Crusty

6 minutes ago, ironbjorn said:

Over my dead body

 

6 minutes ago, WRB said:

Sorry If bass fishing history bothers you.

Oh Tom. Tommy. I 'ain't bothered by nuthin'. Love you, man.

55 minutes ago, Tennessee Boy said:

Well,  I know you’re right but I’m not getting any younger and I can’t let go

For the record, I haven't done much flipping, and I've always called a pitch a "pitch", and will continue to do so, but I'm not going to spend a bit of my battery shoveling shiznit against the tide. It is what it is, and just an observation I've made.

And cover & structure are pretty much the same thing too, right ? 

btw, WTH is a Ditch ?

?

A-Jay

4 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

And cover & structure are pretty much the same thing too, right ?

You'd need to asks the "pros". John Cox called a pitch a flip earlier, so maybe he thinks so. I'm just a humble reporter.

Flipping, pitching, punching...whatever you wish to call it, are all basically the same technique below the waterline.  A hundred years ago, this same technique was called "Doodle Socking" and "Tullie Dipping" and there's nothing new about it.   I'm an old fisherman.  I'm not crusty.  I'm not a grammar Nazi.  I don't eat bran muffins.  I listen to everyone both young and old because I don't want to miss anything.   I have never met anyone who didn't teach me something even if it was something not to do.  

1 minute ago, Captain Phil said:

I'm not crusty.

Glad to hear that, and thanks for not shooting the messenger.

I once caught a big mouth bass on a rubber worm. It tasted the same as the large mouth bass I caught on a plastic worm.

It is what it is, but I still don’t agree with it 

 

“We must be sure, also, that the words or terms used in talking about the different subjects are fully understood. For only in this way can the basic information be expanded…Study these terms so that we can be on common ground and speak the same language.”

 

Buck Perry, 1972

Flippy Flipperson was my great uncle.  I find this whole thread offensive.  

The easiest way for me to remember it is if you are a pitcher you throw the ball.  To pitch is to throw.  

7 hours ago, Captain Phil said:

I don't eat bran muffins.

And what is your problem with raisin bran muffins? 

 

As an older codger, they are one of my favorites. 

8 hours ago, PhishLI said:

Having been laid up for the past few months, for the most part, I've watched a lot of pro tournaments wire to wire. Nearly every one of those guys call pitching "flipping" nowadays. Same thing on YooToob. This isn't going to change. So, for all of you crusty old sticklers and grammar knotzees who are offended by this, just give up when someone calls a pitch a flip. Instead of trying to correct them by re-telling the story about how the flip was actually invented by Flippy Flipperson back in nineteen hundred and Oh 6...blah blah blah, just have a nice bran muffin instead, then try to let it go. Pitching is flipping now, but at least flipping's still flipping, so that's good. Right? Right! ?

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!

4 minutes ago, new2BC4bass said:

And what is your problem with raisin bran muffins? 

Raisins are yucky and bran is like trying to chew cardboard.

 

I'll stick with my blueberry muffins, thank you

 

(also an old codger - but not that old)

15 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

Raisins are yucky and bran is like trying to chew cardboard.

 

I'll stick with my blueberry muffins, thank you

 

(also an old codger - but not that old)

You've been buying your muffins at the wrong store. 

 

Unfortunately I am that old. 

9 hours ago, PhishLI said:

Having been laid up for the past few months, for the most part, I've watched a lot of pro tournaments wire to wire. Nearly every one of those guys call pitching "flipping" nowadays. Same thing on YooToob. This isn't going to change. [stuff deleted]

 

I disagree with your conclusion. While it is correct that if misuse of terms becomes pervasive, then the definitions evolve to encompass the misuse(s) (cf the disinterested vs uninterested debacle).

 

Not sure if we're at an inflection point where the distinction between flipping and pitching has been lost, but until that is confirmed, I will continue to use the terms as historically defined.

Just don't come at me with "weightless" Texas rig and we might can agree.

14 hours ago, PhishLI said:

... Nearly every one of those guys call pitching "flipping" nowadays. ...

Its been that way for a long time here...

 

3 hours ago, jbsoonerfan said:

Just don't come at me with "weightless" Texas rig and we might can agree.

What would the term be?