On 10/29/2022 at 12:43 PM, clemsondds said:

Clarification: when I said braid I meant braid to leader…usually fc leader. 

Nope, I don't do that with jigs.

On 10/29/2022 at 11:43 AM, clemsondds said:

Clarification: when I said braid I meant braid to leader…usually fc leader. 
didn’t think about the abrasion resistance. But man…fishing with braid and an nrx…sensitivity is crazy! 
sounds like majority is straight fluoro tho 

interesting 

I only use braid to leader with jigs. I find it the best way for the way I fish. I don't like straight FC or mono.

On 10/30/2022 at 7:16 AM, TnRiver46 said:

I like braid for swimming jigs up shallow.  Not sure why but I do! Set it hard and bring ‘em in 

I like straight braid for swimjigs too.

I did straight 14lb FC this summer, but didn’t like that on a couple occasions I landed a good-sized fish, the knot failed and the fish fell (in both cases, on the bank). I’ll avoid tying a clinch knot on FC from now on.

 

Next time I throw a jig I’ll experiment with 40lb braid to 20lb mono. I’m optimistic.

42 minutes ago, Drawdown said:

I’ll avoid tying a clinch knot on FC from now on.

 

Good plan. After switching from improved clinch to Palomar, my knot problems with FC disappeared. ?

No such thing as slack line sensitivity only slack line movement.

A line that floats and can easily see floating surface movements can be seen not felt.

controlled lack line means you can still feel the underwater lure weight and any movements or a change in resistance that may indicate a strike.

FC has less water resistance then mono/copol. If the braid is smaller diameter then FC and no slack in the line strike detection could be easier.

Tom

On 10/29/2022 at 6:24 PM, LonnieP said:

I use straight FC for jigs, I like the slack line sensitivity it gives.

Same. I toss my jigs on a 7'3 MH and use 15 or 17 fluoro. I forget which. 

On 10/30/2022 at 9:22 AM, Slipknot_Fan666 said:

I don’t fish anything but braid nowadays. No memory, great sensitivity, easy casting, etc. It just makes life easier.

I second that.

8 hours ago, Drawdown said:

I did straight 14lb FC this summer, but didn’t like that on a couple occasions I landed a good-sized fish, the knot failed and the fish fell (in both cases, on the bank). I’ll avoid tying a clinch knot on FC from now on.

 

Next time I throw a jig I’ll experiment with 40lb braid to 20lb mono. I’m optimistic.

I use a Uni knot with FC and I can’t recall ever having a knot fail. Also be sure that you wet it really good before you cinch it down.

9 hours ago, Drawdown said:

clinch knot

You should give the San Diego jam knot a try

3 hours ago, dodgeguy said:

I second that.

Straight braid or braid to leader?  

15 minutes ago, clemsondds said:

Straight braid or braid to leader?  

Straight braid

There is no doubt that floro is beneficial as a leader with certain methods but I always look for line to do it’s intended purpose just like a rod, braid to float and cut, floro to sink and endure abrasion and mono to stretch.  With deep jigging in rocks, floro the whole way as I need abrasion resistance, sinking and minimal stretch.

On 10/30/2022 at 8:16 AM, TnRiver46 said:

I like braid for swimming jigs up shallow.  Not sure why but I do! Set it hard and bring ‘em in 

It's the way to go with any single hook moving bait presentation IMO. Swim jigs, spinnerbaits, buzzbaits, chatterbaits, swimbaits... It gives you great hook setting power at distance, great sensitivity, easier clearing of weed fouling, and power to pull fish out of cover.

I'm up to four Ark Invoker 7'4" H MF rods now. 1/2 - 2oz rating. Combined with a 7 speed reel and straight braid, it's an outstanding rig for all the above listed baits. Plenty of tip, and power to spare. 

Braid.  

How come braid is reputed to be so fragile on rocks yet we need special scissors to cut it?  Maybe we should make the scissors out of rocks?  

9 hours ago, Craig P said:

There is no doubt that floro is beneficial as a leader with certain methods but I always look for line to do it’s intended purpose just like a rod, braid to float and cut, floro to sink and endure abrasion and mono to stretch.  With deep jigging in rocks, floro the whole way as I need abrasion resistance, sinking and minimal stretch.

Flourocarbon has more stretch than mono. Once it stretches it doesn't return.

13 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

Flourocarbon has more stretch than mono. Once it stretches it doesn't return.

I read that from users here before.  Didn't really make much sense to me then.  Still doesn't.   My fluoro may just be different,  I guess.  

It's straight 30# braid for me for jigs/T-rigs. I've tried braid to 15# leader. It works, but you have to keep a really good check on the leader. I've never broken straight 30# or higher braid. I don't fish very rocky places, mostly wood and some weeds. It's usually at least a bit stained water around here.

On 10/29/2022 at 9:32 PM, FishTank said:

Straight braid for heavy vegetation but I actually use fluorocarbon most of the time. I have  12lb and 15lb rigged for 3/8 and 1/2oz jigs and up to 20lb for bigger jigs. 

Mind if I ask why?  What's the deciding factor for you to chose fc over braid? 

Thanks

18 hours ago, Choporoz said:

I read that from users here before.  Didn't really make much sense to me then.  Still doesn't.   My fluoro may just be different,  I guess.  

 

It's the difference of elastic and plastic deformation. Fluoro tends to develop more plastic deformation, but that must also includes the factor of time "t". So yes, our real life experience is correct - many fluoro stretches less than mono during the short time period of hookset. But if you fight the fish with a lot of line tension for a long time, that's a different story. 

 

I fish jigs with both lines - fluoro when I am changing lures frequently, or I am using a stiff rod; braid + leader when I need the most sensitivity, or I am using a relatively "soft" rod. 

Flouro on anything I'm dragging and also spinnerbaits, buzzbaits, chatterbaits,and spoons. Sometimes Mono on Crankbaits if I need some more stretch but I think Invisx stretches a bit more more than Sniper or Shooter and works well on the Wiggle Wart ,RK Crawler ect.

I do use braid for topwater with no leader and on a spinning rod with a long leader. 

I can still remember the last fish I broke off and it's been 5 + years. I see no disadvantage to flourocarbon other than cost ,but if I consider boat payments ,fuel costs , marina slip rental ect. ect.. No big deal.

 

I only use flouro as leaders for finesse presentations, drop-shot, Neds and use a leader for Jerkbaits.

Everything else is straight braid including jigs.

49 minutes ago, Bird said:

I only use flouro as leaders for finesse presentations, drop-shot, Neds and use a leader for Jerkbaits.

Everything else is straight braid including jigs.

Mind sharing why braid over fc?  Did you use straight fc in the past? Thanks 

1 hour ago, clemsondds said:

Mind sharing why braid over fc?  Did you use straight fc in the past? Thanks 

Casts better. Doesn't backlash as much. Doesn't get damaged by a backlash. Costs far less to use. No difference in catch rates at all. More sensitivity unless you fish totally slack line. Better hook sets.Cuts through weeds better.

9 hours ago, clemsondds said:

Mind if I ask why?  What's the deciding factor for you to chose fc over braid? 

Thanks

A couple of things.... I have fished both as dedicated lines for jigs over the years and found that for general jig fishing FC works best for me. 

 

With braid.....backlashes for me are almost impossible to get out, I fish around a lot of timber (braid saws into it and gets stuck), I often miss fish on hook sets (can't explain this one), I feel it doesn't casts as well under windy conditions and in muddy water I believe the fish see it and feel it (just personal opinion) . I do like braid for vegetation, grass, lily pads, and any punching scenario. 

 

The big thing to me though is the number of casts I can make in a day during a tournament.  With braid I am constantly managing the line,  taking up time. With FC this is not an issue.