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Flouro for everything except punchin, froggin and toppin

 

 

 

 

Mike

49 minutes ago, clemsondds said:

Mind sharing why braid over fc?  Did you use straight fc in the past? Thanks 

Yes, used straight flouro in the past and in comparison, much prefer braid.

Casting, sensitivity, hooksets, longevity, enhanced bait action.

Spinning 15# Power Pro

Casting 20# Power Pro

 

Just one fishermans opinion ?

1 hour ago, Bird said:

Yes, used straight flouro in the past and in comparison, much prefer braid.

Casting, sensitivity, hooksets, longevity, enhanced bait action.

Spinning 15# Power Pro

Casting 20# Power Pro

 

Just one fishermans opinion ?

Other than walking baits or wake baits could you explain bait action part ?

Anything that swims or moves, straight braid.

Anything that soaks or drags, braid to flor leader.

I have used straight braid, straight fluoro and braid with leader.  They all work.  All are different .  I wouldn't hesitate to use any of them.  Try each and find out what you prefer.  

I consider “value” as to risk of losing a bait too.  A $10.00 crankbait is a braid bait as opposed to a $.60 ned rig!
But once again both fall into either the moving or dragging categories, for me.

1 hour ago, rangerjockey said:

Other than walking baits or wake baits could you explain bait action part ?

The limpness of braid let's all falling baits behave far more naturally than stiffer lines.

17 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

The limpness of braid let's all falling baits behave far more naturally than stiffer lines.

Sorry, I'm not buying that one.

5 minutes ago, rangerjockey said:

Sorry, I'm not buying that one.

Same. For example,  I don't think a 1/2oz jig with a trailer is going to fall any different on mono, FC or braid. Somewhere there is a video on this but couldn't find it.

13 minutes ago, FishTank said:

Same. For example,  I don't think a 1/2oz jig with a trailer is going to fall any different on mono, FC or braid. Somewhere there is a video on this but couldn't find it.

Ok let me revise that to finesse baits .

21 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

Ok let me revise that to finesse baits .

That makes it worse. If you fish a Ned on 1/16 oz head it will take longer to pull that braid under than flouro. If you use a long leader it helps but straight braid ?  no chance.

 

29 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

Ok let me revise that to finesse baits .

Ned baits and some BFS baits need FC to do their thing. But when you get to that 1/8 to maybe 1/4oz jig with trailer, like the Strike King Itsy Bitsy jig, I could see braid being a positive factor. Also lighter swimjigs would be a possibility,  especially if used around grass.

Braid we are discussing high strength Spectra fibers not Dacron or other line braids.

Advantages are significantly smaller diameter per pound test and near zero memory with excellent knot strength.

Sounds ideal for fishing line and started out a super braid that was a panacea in the late 80’s early 90’s.

As off shore tuna and marlin tournament anglers we used the new braid to increase line capacity and use smaller lighter weight reels that held 600 yards of Fins 60 lb braid with 100’ top shot of 100# Soft Steel* copoly line. 

I like Fins because it was polyethylene coated Spectra fibers that was color fast and made domestically.

obviously I tried braid for fresh water bass fishing at Clear Lake and the Delta because the water is off color and had heavy aquatic plant cover. Braid was a perfect fit.

Since I learned to bass fish using Dacron braid, Fins was similar quite going thru guides and good casting line.

Everyone was touting Daiwa Samurai 10    braid with FC leader where I fished, so gave it try with horrible results. Lost more bass from line failures then using 5 lb Maxima UG line.

Tried 30 lb Samurai on the bait cast outfit with 12 FC leader with the same results, breaking off bass shortly after hook set and short fight. 

Tried lots of different combinations and mfr’s and finally gave up braid in our deep rocky structure lakes. To risky to fish for days on end to loose a big bass form line failures. 2 knots is too many.

Tom

* Seaguar 100# FC leader would separate under pressure, stopped using it.

4 hours ago, FishTank said:

For example,  I don't think a 1/2oz jig with a trailer is going to fall any different on mono, FC or braid.

 

I throw 1/4, 3/8, & 1/2 jigs most of the time. I thrown all 3 on mono, fluoro, & braid; in my opinion there's no difference in how they fall on slack line or a controlled fall. 

 

I like braid in vegetation but not wood. 

 

Absolutely can't stand Fluorocarbon!

 

If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you always got.

 

I have zero issues feeling bites or landing fish on monofilament.

On 10/29/2022 at 9:34 AM, WRB said:

Down side with FC is weaker knot strength

Yes!

And when you backlash it's done.

8 hours ago, rangerjockey said:

Other than walking baits or wake baits could you explain bait action part ?

I think weightless senkos and flukes have a better gliding action on braid. With a little slack they'll spiral down.

I like to use a hi vis braid to a 25 lb. flouro leader.  I like  seeing the line. Pike love jigs and a 25 lb leader is enough to prevent a majority of bite offs.

11 hours ago, dodgeguy said:

And when you backlash it's done.

Again, not true. If you kink it, then Yes but if it just puffs up some then no problem.

Honestly if your backlashing that often you may want to change reels to a brand with a different braking system or tighten up the ones you have until you get more proficient with one.

I get it you like braid more power to you. Personally, I'm going to fish what I think gives me the best chance of putting fish in the boat and around here, for me, that's flouro.

 

On 11/2/2022 at 10:16 AM, Choporoz said:

I have used straight braid, straight fluoro and braid with leader.  They all work.  All are different .  I wouldn't hesitate to use any of them.  Try each and find out what you prefer.  

Could you share when you choose which specific technique? Thanks 

I've used braid, mono, and fluoro over the years.  The braid was always a pain when snagged, even with a leader, which I don't like using.  I really never noticed a difference between the flouro and mono, except the fluoro was a lot stiffer.  Now I use straight mono for just about everything.

Braid with fluoro leader for lift drop jigging.

You definitely need Fluorocarbon and 15lb test and higher, I found it 20lb test is sweet spot. Good luck.

8 hours ago, clemsondds said:

Could you share when you choose which specific technique? Thanks 

I like flouro in wood.  I like straight braid in pads and punching.  I use braid to leader dragging jigs.  But, like I said above, all work and I reserve the right to change up at any time.  I don't have a strong preference for any of the three.

Been using straight braid lately,I really like it for swim jigs