Ashboom Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Looking to get a new spinning reel ..between the new daiwa exceler 3000d-c or 4000d-c ...or the shimano sahara 4000...what #lb test would work or should I stick with braid...will be using it for worm and jigs up to 1/2oz..would the daiwa be better cause of the deeper spool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgf91 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 8lb should be fine if it's not too heavy of cover. But that's like good fc like sniper or invisx. I go up to 12 on my MH 4000 combos but that's with a lot of OCD spinning reel tricks I do to mitigate any issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex from GA Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 10 or 12 should be fine. It's springier than mono so 10 might be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaubsNU1 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 After learning of these forums, I switched all my spinning rods to 10lb braid, connected via Alberto knot to either 10 or 8lb Fluoro. Works for everything I need to throw… 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User WRB Posted September 18, 2023 Super User Share Posted September 18, 2023 Don’t go over .010 diameter straight FC on 2500-3000 spinning reels, over .012D on the 4000. Tom 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Mobasser Posted September 18, 2023 Super User Share Posted September 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, WRB said: Don’t go over .010 diameter straight FC on 2500-3000 spinning reels, over .012D on the 4000. Tom WRB is correct here. Look at the diameter of the lines. I had trouble with flouro line on my spinning reels, so I stick with good mono or a co- poly line. Much less trouble with line management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reel Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Fifteen pound braid with a fluoro leader is the way I would go. Why would a deeper spool be better ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted September 18, 2023 Super User Share Posted September 18, 2023 I found Flouro too loopy for my spinning set ups. my Maxim has a relatively smaller first guide and the loops from line memory, really slowed my casts. I went to Braid, and never went back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pogues2300 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 I switched to braid too long fluoro leader and that’s by far my favorite. Great casting and sensitivity. And the other nice thing about spinning gear is you can use many different knots and it casts great and lasts a long time. I usually use uni to uni or blood knot on my spinning set up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r83srock Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 I started taking wrb advice. I like 6lb yo zuri hybrid and 8 lb Trilene xl on my Daiwa 2500s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
you Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 If you want a mono (fluoro or nylon) mainline, spool width will be more important then spool depth. A well-filled, wide spool will (generally) cast farther and give you fewer loop/tangle issues. It's why I tend to put larger spinning reals on my combos. I agree with @WRB's diameter recommendations. Of course, braid to leader will be easier to handle in most scenarios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User MickD Posted September 18, 2023 Super User Share Posted September 18, 2023 I gave up on all FC years ago. I still have a lot of partially used spools hanging around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User ATA Posted September 18, 2023 Super User Share Posted September 18, 2023 I would do 12lb of thinner diameter braid and 8lb test of fluorocarbon, if you have clear water, you can go down even to 6lb test fluorocarbon . And Sahara is the winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hands Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 I like #10 or #12 braid to a ten to twelve foot 6-8 lb fluoro leader. I would go through a lot of spools with all fluoro or mono. If I put a fifteen foot leader on braid, I might go through that from one to three times in a day of fishing depending on how often and where the leader breaks. With braid, I only lose a foot or so when I retie another leader onto it. My spool stays nice and full for much longer, and I don't deal with unruliness or line twist, although sometimes wind knots can be a PITA. I'll happily accept whatever tradeoffs that braid to leader throws at me. And if I was going to buy a 3000 size spinning reel, I would go out of my way to get one with a shallow spool if possible. Sure, you can deal with backing, but after having shallow spool reels, I wish all of my spinning reels had them. YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrnkNsteen Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 I've never had good luck with flouro on a spinning reel and always pull it back off. The only flouro on my spinning rods is a few as leader material at the endbof braid. The rest are mono. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thediscochef Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Get the Exceler 3000 and then put 15 or 20# sufix 832 on it, with a leader of your choice. I like the P-line tactical for a FC leader, but I normally use monofilament or Sufix Tritanium Plus. Fluorocarbon mainline on spinning gear is borderline unmanageable, I've never left it on for longer than a day and always kicked myself for the waste afterwards. Some of my 832 is over a year old. I don't like throwing out perfectly good line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Functional Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Put me in the camp of braid to leader. 15# or 20# power pro slick to an appropriately heavy leader for the bait I'm fishing. Never had luck with floro on spinning rods and mono didnt fair much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thediscochef Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Functional said: Put me in the camp of braid to leader. 15# or 20# power pro slick to an appropriately heavy leader for the bait I'm fishing. Never had luck with floro on spinning rods and mono didnt fair much better. Mono is much better than fluoro but a braid-to-leader gives a lot more control over where along the line a breakoff happens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulkster Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 I use a good quality mono (I like Sufix Siege) on my spinning reels. I use 4 or 6 pound on my 1000 reel 8 or 10 on my 3000 12 on my 4000 (reel for salmon) casts very well and its strong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Why the large reel? Is the idea to manage the line with the larger spool? If you’re going braid a 2500 is plenty large. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thediscochef Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said: Why the large reel? Is the idea to manage the line with the larger spool? If you’re going braid a 2500 is plenty large. Fuego 2500 6.2:1 alllllllll day 1 hour ago, Hulkster said: I use a good quality mono (I like Sufix Siege) on my spinning reels. I use 4 or 6 pound on my 1000 reel 8 or 10 on my 3000 12 on my 4000 (reel for salmon) casts very well and its strong siege is such a good line, tough as nails 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Baron Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 No need for a deeper spool when bass fishing, so I'd say get the 3000 (or a 2500XH - I really like that faster retrieve). Fluoro just isn't worth paying so much for the headaches it causes on spinning gear, IMHO. Plus, the sensitivity of braid is great for feeling bites and the low stretch will help you set those single hooks. For worms and jigs, I'd assume you'll be fishing around some cover so I'd say spool up with 20# braid and use a 10-12# fluoro leader. Teach yourself the FG knot - lots of videos out there to help, and it's worth the trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Columbia Craw Posted September 22, 2023 Super User Share Posted September 22, 2023 I’m a convert. Every spinning outfit gets braid. No line twist. No looping or springing off the spool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greentrout Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 6, 8 and 10 lb. Big Game mono most of the time -- sometimes braid small diameter. Use a line conditioner on my mono. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishingmickey Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Full spool Fluorocarbon and spinning reels do not play well together. you can get away with it in the lighter tests. Look at the diameter like WRB suggested. Newly spooled fluorocarbon of the higher lb/test diameter will spring off the reel like a slinky. I do use fluorocarbon on spinning reels but it is almost always between 4-8# and the higher quality fluorocarbons. Tatsu or Diawa Samurai is the limpest of the fluorocarbon lines. I use it for light weight finesse lures, Neds, 1/16 oz jig, small balsa cranks and underspins. Fluorocarbon has much better sensitivity on slack line (the fall). If your planning on fishing it a lot. Go braid to leader and save the headaches of line twist. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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