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Looking to get a new spinning reel ..between the new daiwa exceler 3000d-c or 4000d-c ...or the shimano sahara 4000...what #lb test would work or should I stick with braid...will be using it for worm and jigs up to 1/2oz..would the daiwa be better cause of the deeper spool? 

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8lb should be fine if it's not too heavy of cover. But that's like good fc like sniper or invisx. I go up to 12 on my MH 4000 combos but that's with a lot of OCD spinning reel tricks I do to mitigate any issues. 

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After learning of these forums, I switched all my spinning rods to 10lb braid, connected via Alberto knot to either 10 or 8lb Fluoro. Works for everything I need to throw…

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Don’t go over .010 diameter straight FC on 2500-3000 spinning reels, over .012D on the 4000.

Tom

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13 minutes ago, WRB said:

Don’t go over .010 diameter straight FC on 2500-3000 spinning reels, over .012D on the 4000.

Tom

WRB is correct here. Look at the diameter of the lines. I had trouble with flouro line on my spinning reels, so I stick with good mono or a co- poly line. Much less trouble with line management.

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I found Flouro too loopy for my spinning set ups.  my Maxim has a relatively smaller first guide and the loops from line memory, really slowed my casts.

 

I went to Braid, and never went back. 

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I switched to braid too long fluoro leader and that’s by far my favorite. Great casting and sensitivity.  And the other nice thing about spinning gear is you can use many different knots and it casts great and lasts a long time. I usually use uni to uni or blood knot on my spinning set up. 

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If you want a mono (fluoro or nylon) mainline, spool width will be more important then spool depth. A well-filled, wide spool will (generally) cast farther and give you fewer loop/tangle issues. It's why I tend to put larger spinning reals on my combos. I agree with @WRB's diameter recommendations.

 

Of course, braid to leader will be easier to handle in most scenarios.

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I would do 12lb of thinner diameter braid and 8lb test of fluorocarbon, if you have clear water, you can go down even to 6lb test fluorocarbon .

And Sahara is the winner.

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I like #10 or #12 braid to a ten to twelve foot 6-8 lb fluoro leader.

 

I would go through a lot of spools with all fluoro or mono. If I put a fifteen foot leader on braid, I might go through that from one to three times in a day of fishing depending on how often and where the leader breaks. With braid, I only lose a foot or so when I retie another leader onto it. My spool stays nice and full for much longer, and I don't deal with unruliness or line twist, although sometimes wind knots can be a PITA. I'll happily accept whatever tradeoffs that braid to leader throws at me.

 

And if I was going to buy a 3000 size spinning reel, I would go out of my way to get one with a shallow spool if possible. Sure, you can deal with backing, but after having shallow spool reels, I wish all of my spinning reels had them.

 

YMMV.

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Get the Exceler 3000 and then put 15 or 20# sufix 832 on it, with a leader of your choice. I like the P-line tactical for a FC leader, but I normally use monofilament or Sufix Tritanium Plus. Fluorocarbon mainline on spinning gear is borderline unmanageable, I've never left it on for longer than a day and always kicked myself for the waste afterwards. Some of my 832 is over a year old. I don't like throwing out perfectly good line.

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Put me in the camp of braid to leader.  15# or 20# power pro slick to an appropriately heavy leader for the bait I'm fishing.

 

Never had luck with floro on spinning rods and mono didnt fair much better. 

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1 minute ago, Functional said:

Put me in the camp of braid to leader.  15# or 20# power pro slick to an appropriately heavy leader for the bait I'm fishing.

 

Never had luck with floro on spinning rods and mono didnt fair much better. 

Mono is much better than fluoro but a braid-to-leader gives a lot more control over where along the line a breakoff happens

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1 minute ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Why the large reel? Is the idea to manage the line with the larger spool? If you’re going braid a 2500 is plenty large. 

Fuego 2500 6.2:1 alllllllll day

1 hour ago, Hulkster said:

I use a good quality mono (I like Sufix Siege) on my spinning reels. 

 

I use 4 or 6 pound on my 1000 reel

 8 or 10 on  my 3000 

12 on my 4000 (reel for salmon)

 

casts very well and its strong 

 

siege is such a good line, tough as nails

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No need for a deeper spool when bass fishing, so I'd say get the 3000 (or a 2500XH - I really like that faster retrieve).  Fluoro just isn't worth paying so much for the headaches it causes on spinning gear, IMHO.  Plus, the sensitivity of braid is great for feeling bites and the low stretch will help you set those single hooks.  For worms and jigs, I'd assume you'll be fishing around some cover so I'd say spool up with 20# braid and use a 10-12# fluoro leader.  Teach yourself the FG knot - lots of videos out there to help, and it's worth the trouble.

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     Full spool Fluorocarbon and spinning reels do not play well together.  you can get away with it in the lighter tests. Look at the diameter like WRB suggested.  Newly spooled fluorocarbon of the higher lb/test diameter will spring off the reel like a slinky. I do use fluorocarbon on spinning reels but it is almost always between 4-8# and the higher quality fluorocarbons. Tatsu or Diawa Samurai is the limpest of the fluorocarbon lines.  I use it for light weight finesse lures, Neds, 1/16 oz jig, small balsa cranks and underspins. Fluorocarbon has much better sensitivity on slack line (the fall).

    If your planning on fishing it a lot. Go braid to leader and save the headaches of line twist.

FM

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