Super User Mobasser Posted April 3 Author Super User Share Posted April 3 Just now, Catt said: I would be willing to bet this trait was installed in us by our parents. My Mother & Farther lived through the Great Depression, my Dad fought in WWII. If they left my two brothers & I anything it was a strong work ethic. We were often told, "if you start it, you finish it". Catt, I have no doubt that'd where I got it. My dad was really old school. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33oldtimer Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Weather all over the place in the Midwest this year. I've had to constantly adjust my expectations. About half the time I adjust it to "practicing my casting" rather than fishing. I've resorted to live bait after 3-4 skunks in a row. Worst case scenario there is always some show to stream and catch up on until the weather improves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Columbia Craw Posted April 3 Super User Share Posted April 3 Tenacity is a very positive trait but it must be balanced with a willingness to be introspective and being open to evaluation and adjusting how you plan to attain your goals. My Dad told me some things are like beating your head against a brick wall and it feels good to stop. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Koz Posted April 4 Super User Share Posted April 4 It’s the anxious time of the year. The weather is up and down, but those warmer days get us excited to be on the lake and catch a lot of fish. But the bass are in a transition period and they tend to be spread out in different stages of winter, pre spawn, spawn, and post spawn. This frustrates the heck out of me. The good news in my neck of the woods is the bait fish are pushing out of mid lake main channel and moving shallow. The bass are about to follow. Unfortunately, winds have been 20-30 mph all week and that gets a little rough for my kayak. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User scaleface Posted April 4 Super User Share Posted April 4 18 hours ago, GreenPig said: Passed multiple Kidney stones while fishing.✔️ I think we have a winner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thediscochef Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 4/3/2024 at 8:15 AM, gimruis said: I don't think its a coincidence when a sizable portion of anglers is on the struggle bus. The one common theme seems to be two fold when I see this problem: the conditions/weather/time of year, and people fishing from the bank. Getting off the bank would obviously help being that you aren't stuck in one general location. I realize its not possible for everyone though. Bass are warm-water species of fish and they are cold blooded. They do not like colder water temps and when cold fronts roll in, it only compounds the problem. Cold water slows down their metabolism and activity, thus reducing the amount of feeding. I'm not saying you can't catch "any" fish at this time, but you just have to lower your expectations. Either that or just wait until it warms up. I refuse to comply with this reality 😂 I'd say that tenacity is the main reason I've caught any bass over 6lbs. Though, I think it is less positive when paired with stubbornness - I find more success with tenacity when I'm willing to use the kitchen sink. I'm no Pat but I'm no slouch from the bank either. I would say I've just finished scaling Mount Stupid and am descending into the valley of "I know very little, actually" 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Flood Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I first thought the thread was called Tinnitus and I was about to say its time for these old folks to log off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thediscochef Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Just now, Texas Flood said: I first thought the thread was called Tinnitus and I was about to say its time for these old folks to log off. I'm ringin!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User gimruis Posted April 4 Super User Share Posted April 4 22 minutes ago, thediscochef said: I refuse to comply with this reality 😂 You have a lot more will power than I do. I am not one to keep attempting something over and over if I am failing. I look for a solution and try to adjust. The whopper plopper has failed me over and over which is why I stopped using it. Sometimes its the participant, but seriously sometimes its the conditions too. That's well documented here. At least you know its reality. Even if you're unwilling to accept or comply with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thediscochef Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 8 minutes ago, gimruis said: You have a lot more will power than I do. I am not one to keep attempting something over and over if I am failing. I look for a solution and try to adjust. The whopper plopper has failed me over and over which is why I stopped using it. Sometimes its the participant, but seriously sometimes its the conditions too. That's well documented here. At least you know its reality. Even if you're unwilling to accept or comply with it. I know what I'm doing! I've been bashing my head into walls since I was a kid, I'm very good at it by now. Conditions determine everything. Can't catch what isn't present. Can't whop what doesn't plop or whatever. Lures are just tools in a toolbox, all with specific use cases. Which is why I say that tenacity is best paired with flexibility 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User gimruis Posted April 4 Super User Share Posted April 4 Just now, thediscochef said: I've been bashing my head into walls since I was a kid, I'm very good at it by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User MIbassyaker Posted April 4 Super User Share Posted April 4 It is much easier to be tenacious when your expectations are realistic. A lot of anglers become frustrated because they expect greater success than the conditions or their level of skill and experience warrant. It's nowhere near as easy as it looks on youtube....and if it is, it probably won't be next time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thediscochef Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Just now, gimruis said: I can do paradiddles with my forehead. Faster! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User FishTank Posted April 4 Super User Share Posted April 4 I've fished with guy off and on for years that has the opposite of tenacity. He's slow to get to the lake but once there he's in a hurry to leave. Me, I'm the opposite. I've worked out for as long as I can remember and there is something in me that just reaches a certain point and keeps going. It's the same with fishing. But with that, no matter how determined and motivated you are, you have to set a planned limit for yourself with a goal in mind, even if this goal requires failure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User ol'crickety Posted April 4 Super User Share Posted April 4 Quote It helps if you like fishing. Some folks like catching but not fishing. Quote But i still love every second im fishing, being outdoors right next to the water, for hours and hours, getting some cardio in, enjoying nature, having fun and getting to learn more than i did the day before. Even when it doesnt pay off and can be slightly stressful i always enjoy it and leave happy. I so agree with both of the above. I love fishing, I.e. using well-engineered and well-made rods and reels, the beautiful lures, casting, paddling, watching the birds, and planning. I can be there simply having a good time and out of nowhere, a six-pounder wallops my lure. The nerve! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody B Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I'm like a kid in a candy store when I'm fishing. I love it. Each next cast is going to be something great. I can also immerse my mind into it so I'm not thinking about that intermittent squeak, rattle or electrical problem waiting for me at work. I like "catching" too but fishing is really what I like. I'll stay at the lake longer sometimes when I'm not catching many. I have limited times I can go but when I do I usually don't have a set time to leave. Many times I catch a Bass on my last cast. I'll decided that I'm leaving on the first Bass after 2PM or something like that. Catching a Bass on my last cast, especially if it's going to be a few days before I can go again leaves me excited for the next trip. @Pat Brown I didn't know you were a musician. It's my belief that the qualities that make a good musician also make a good fisherman. (FWIW I consider "fisherman" to be a gender neutral term). If I have a problem that needs to be solved, or I'm in some kind of bind and need help I'll pick the musician, fisherman or baseball player to help. (does this make sense to anyone except me) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User ol'crickety Posted April 4 Super User Share Posted April 4 2 minutes ago, Woody B said: If I have a problem that needs to be solved, or I'm in some kind of bind and need help I'll pick the musician, fisherman or baseball player to help. (does this make sense to anyone except me) It doesn't make sense to me, but I'm intrigued. Do tell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swest18x Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 When it comes to fishing there's a lot of days where tenacity is the only skill I seem to have! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishTax Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I think I'm more stubborn than anything else. I'll fish 5 hours and get skunked, and only come off the water to keep promises at home but I'm ready to go again as soon as I have an opportunity. Then every once in a while I find a big fish hooked on my line, and that's just the motivation needed to get skunked a few more times 😎 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User WRB Posted April 5 Super User Share Posted April 5 I don’t think tenacity is a positive trait as being stubbornly determined to stay the course usually prevents adjusting to the current conditions. I am guilty to trying to force feed bass hair jigs with port trailers with tenacity however I adjusted my locations and didn’t stubbornly stick to what I was doing. Knowing when to hold them or fold them imo is the key to success. Tom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Catt Posted April 5 Super User Share Posted April 5 On 4/3/2024 at 9:43 AM, Catt said: Tenacity is driven by your determination to achieve a goal, unwilling to give up until you do. Y'all need to read the definition again! No where in the definition does it say unwillingness to change! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Mobasser Posted April 5 Author Super User Share Posted April 5 16 minutes ago, Catt said: Y'all need to read the definition again! No where in the definition does it say unwillingness to change! Thanks Catt. When I made this thread, I meant stick to fishing period. Of course be willing to change if you need to, but don't give up and keep working at it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User WRB Posted April 5 Super User Share Posted April 5 There are a lot of definitions to being tencaous. Doggedly stubborn and determined to achieve a goal both come under tenacity. In fishing we tend to say the angler is grinder staying out fishing focused regardless of the conditions. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User ol'crickety Posted April 5 Super User Share Posted April 5 16 hours ago, WRB said: Knowing when to hold them or fold them imo is the key to success. Tom, I would sing Kenny Rogers song, "The Gambler," while I fish except the loons would think I'm loonier than they are. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Bankbeater Posted April 5 Super User Share Posted April 5 It is what keeps us going back on the water even when the skunk is present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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